The effect of KBS’s cancellation of JYJ’s broadcast appearance has once again become clear. In particular, international fans have shown their anger towards the broadcasting station and Jeju Island, tarnishing the image of Korea. Now, domestic fans are not the only thing to worry about.
JYJ were scheduled to perform on KBS’s “New 7 Wonders” special, yet were given a notice of cancellation. In addition, JYJ’s presence was replaced by girl groups from JYJ’s former entertainment company, SM Entertainment. JYJ’s agency revealed that KBS did not even give them a clear reason for the cancellation.
In May 2010, many angry messages were left on KBS’s message boards due to KBS not allowing JYJ to perform on “Music Bank”, citing the lawsuit between JYJ and SM Entertainment as the reason.
In the wake of this controversy, international fans have taken their disappointment to domestic portal sites, becoming a hot topic. They write that they came to love Korea because of JYJ, but are very disappointed with this scandal.
An Egyptian fan writes, “I loved Korea because of JYJ, and bought Korean electronics and products because of it. Now, I will love only JYJ, not Korea. I am angry at the injustice JYJ has to suffer because of a powerful force.” An Australian fan writes, “I learned a lot about Korea after becoming a JYJ fan. However, this event has caused fans across the world to worry about the evil and absurity of Korean entertainment companies. I will not buy Korean products in the future.”
Fans from other countries state, “I was going to visit Jeju Island, but now I will definitely not go anymore” and others, expressing their opinions. Seeing these messages, Korean netizens have become worried of JYJ’s international fans’ reactions.
Seeing the messages left by international fans, Korean netizens wrote, “I’m embarrassed. Even though I do not pay much attention to nor like JYJ that much, seeing this makes me feel embarrassed”, “KBS, a national broadcasting station, has tarnished the country’s image”, “Hallyu is playing a role in cultural exchange, but how should we do the cultural exchange well? The entire nation is pondering”, showing their embarrassment to the situation.
Domestic fans are reacting similarly. A Korean fan wrote, “I am afraid that foreign fans who have come to love Korean because of liking JYJ will come to hate Korea. I don’t have anything to say to foreign fans, just don’t hate everything about Korea.” Another Korean fan writes, “Foreign fans know of everything that is happening within the country. Foreign fans who planned on seeing JYJ perform have cancelled their hotel and flight reservations. This is not just a lost chance at earning foreign money, but an international embarrassment.”
With this controversy, not only has KBS damaged its reputation. International fans’ image of Korea has been tarnished as well. KBS’s representatives stated, “the line-up of artists is entirely up to the production staff. They will make an announcement after the broadcast on the 20th.”
Top 3 comments on the article:
#1: I do not know what to say to foreign fans to explain. I’m so embarrassed.
#2: Just how big is JYJ’s international fanbase? Even though it was a low season [for tourists] during the Busan concert, all the hotels in the area were full. Thanks to JYJ, hotels earned money and articles were written.
#3: The Republic of Korea has lost its image due to internationally-recognized fraud!
**They also posted a screenshot of some messages left on mediajeju.com http://nimg.nate.com/orgImg/ss/2011/07/20/20110720_102831956797_0.jpg
Source: Nate
Credit Translation: SoJae’dNews
Shared By: JYJ3
power of jyj.
Admins thanks for translating the comments
Are they saying we faked the IP’s?
Google translate only tells me so much
ridiculous
considering the sheer number and variation on the comment section of the article
LOL.
the ips aren´t fake…these are really many people from many countries
you see the ips in every message(all the ips are different)
i know that dear
Since i stalked the jeju blog i Know there were many countries
i just clicked on a link of one of the links
Haters are getting desperate
no..they said that those IP from Canada and US are the same.they are saying that the fans are lying.i can understand few comments and it hurts so much to read those comments!darn!!
Yes. Way to say JYJ is not effective or popular, KBS. You want to know the reason why JYJ has the most “ambassadorships”? Behold one of them!
Thank you as always, Admins
Haha.. thats right…
today Im soo proud of my JYJ family jajajajjajaja
well done girls!!!!!! I wrote my message too and said Korea is corrupt xDDD
So you have access to that message board? If so, could you please post the official statement on there? (http://jyjphilippines.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/official-statement-of-the-international-consumers-of-the-korean-wave-regarding-kbs-jeju%E2%80%99s-public-deception/)
haha.. thats my korea.. you look so down of my Jyj then you’ll regret this.. n not forget for TVxQ.. your fans will be right back behide you.. huhu
Hello Jimmie, good to see you here! I’ve posted your link here, I hope you don’t mind:
http://www.jejuweekly.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=1772
KBS made a wrong move this time …..
LOL I think they always make a wrong move re. Our Boys..
I wanted to post but cannot… WHy????? I want to post it!!!! I mean on That Jeju page…
Do you mean Jeju N7W page? They block the page since 2 days ago. And the Jeju Govt citizen page also cannot add new comment. I don’t know the pages situation now.
i think they are really2 scare with use.. (fans jyj).. hahaha.. how shameless them..
sorry for used USE.. i just want to say US.. hahaha.. im very careless gurl.. XD
As many of you know by now, several international fanclubs have released an official statement on this matter (http://jyjphilippines.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/official-statement-of-the-international-consumers-of-the-korean-wave-regarding-kbs-jeju%E2%80%99s-public-deception/). Please contact your local media about this, especially if you are in a country that regularly reports on Kpop. Let’s not lose this momentum!
Jimmie!
JIMMIE!
Jimmie!!!!
It’s good to see you here. Hope you’re well.
Done! I sent this to detikhot.com, one of popular kpop digital news in Indonesia.
lets send this to our company media broadcasting!
JIMMIE!!! YOU’RE BACK!!!
Thank you @Jimmie
Everyone, let’s fighting. This is a good momentum. I hope it will be posted at international media.
Good thinking!! So you know of any in the States? Is it Alkpop? If so, how do I report it? Has it already been done? Any other ones in the Us we can report to?
It really is a pity that it has come to this extent..but it must be done in the interests of justice and fairness…kbs/jeju/sm should have thought about this more carefully
My mouth was hanging open reading this… I’m glad that our severe disappointment was expressed and noted. Wow, the power of fans is awe-inspiring! It’s nothing less then our boys deserve!!
“Just how big is JYJ’s international fanbase?”
It also makes me wonder. Perhaps, there are also fans from Africa, Iceland, or many other countries we might never thought will ever heard of JYJ.
This has seriously become a serious issue which affects not only the entertainment industry.
Someday, JYJ might really bring a monstrous change in Korean’s culture and the way it’s being governed.
jyj does have fans from africa i do kno that..
Yeah. There’s quite a bit of them. And don’t forget Latin America as well. There’s a LOT of them. I can never forget the Peru, Puerto Rico, Brazil, etc. fans that showed up at the Newark stop of the tour…Amazing.
indonesia too .. so proud to be JYJ’s fans
Mexico, Venezuela, Argentina too
There’s an unni from Lithuania who posts in the GAP post a lot here. ^^ She says there’s some of them there too.
Where do you think JYJ3 got 7mill hits come from? (^_~)
I’m from a “You wouldnt expect” kind of country
Oooh, ooh, do tell!
WOWOWOWOW!! =D
maybe we should all use pics of our national flag’s pics here so that we can find out where each of our JYJ family members come from!
ooh the wonder of JYJ~~^^
oops! typo there~
edit: maybe we should all use *pics of our national flags* here so that we can find out where each of our JYJ family members come from!
Good idea! Hmm. Maybe the Admins could do a “What country are you from?” post and put it up as one of the links on the bar.
That’s a great idea!!! We should do it!
I’m from somewhere else that no one will expect it too,hehe..and in this JYJ3 site is a place where I can share about JYJ with u all^^
and where is that?
Somewhere around Asia,just a small country,hehe,neighbour with Malaysia,Singapore,etc^^
@bellochoco, are you from Laos?
Nope,I’m from Brunei^^
@Bellochoco
We are neighbor then. I don’t think Brunei is small country. It’s a rich country. You should be proud of it.
@bellochoco
Guessing… Brunei?
@bellochoco – which kg?
From Tutong^^
yeah I wonder too and somethimes I really think that instead of small group around everywhere, we do need one main group stand by the guys. To call a JYJ fan group can cause a lot problem with many cassie, but we need some power to support the them. JYJ fighting !!!!
I wonder that too. sometimes I think that, instead of many small groups all over the places, we really need only one group that will stand by and support the guys, to call them JYJ fan would cause alot of trouble with a number of current cassie, but we do really the power to voice up
sorry double post, admin, please delete this please
True
I’m from Quebec City in Canada.
Ottawa, Canada!
I;m heading to Quebec City next week! Yay!
india as well
well~ it’s seem like KBS, SME, and other people who’s hurting JYJ like to eat ‘shit’ words toward them~
lalalalalalala~~~~~~~~ I thought korean are smart~ but, I guess I was wrong *roll my eyes*
well, at least..
JYJ and JYJ’s Fans are showing their POWER!!!! hahaha~
dont messing around with us baby~ big no~no~
JYJ is too good for korea, seriously..
I hope, this crap can make a HUGE DAMAGE for south korea in the future..
am I evil?! yeeeeeeeeesss~ because they show me how to be badass devil~ wkwkwkk
bye south korea~ just enjoying ur harsh words~ muaaaaach! > 3<
-Love from JYJ's Int. fans-
“I thought korean are smart~ but, I guess I was wrong *roll my eyes*”
“JYJ is too good for korea, seriously..”
“I hope, this crap can make a HUGE DAMAGE for south korea in the future..”
….yeeeah, you need to stop.
ikr? These kind of comments will just fuel JYJ haters. It’ll blind people to Jaejoong’s efforts to still promote Jeju, which I think is a shame. Fans’ behaviour always reflect back on the celebrity, and all this hate on Korea will eventually backfire on JYJ. Statements like “I thought korean are smart~ but, I guess I was wrong *roll my eyes*” may lead to nationalistic comments from offended Koreans, and this will not benefit JYJ in the long run.
EXACTLY.
That’s why I had to say something about it
in the other post.
DO NOT, DOT have distain of South Korea IN JYJ’s NAME.
You can not like the country on your own personal time but KEEP what’s happening
to JYJ strictly to WHO DESERVES IT, not to all of South Korea.
“this will not benefit JYJ in the long run” .<
“Fans’ behaviour always reflect back on the celebrity”
that’s what worries me the most. it would be fine if fans making douchebag comments only reflected on themselves, but unfortunately the entertainment industry doesn’t work like that (especially the one in s. korea where average netizen/fan/anti/etc. comments seem to be given more weight than what i’m used to.) if someone has obnoxious fans, no matter how much you actually like the artist, it’s hard to not attribute that negativity to them as well.
WOW.
Sit please.
JYJ being too good for Korea is exactly the statement that brings comments like “JYJ should just go to America then”. JYJ is a Korean group who wants to sing their Korean songs in Korean on a Korean stage in front of their Korean fans. (LOL how many times do I have to mention “Korean”?) I worry for JYJ because they’ll be hurt to hear/ read comments for them to get out of their own country.
Yeah, ignorance is in full blast.
hahaha..this should be at akp too…shame KBS n SM
I am waiting and will buy korean product : JYJ new album / yoochun miss ripley DVD and all other products related to JYJ only!
Let’s just boycott KBS – for us here KBSworld. Let’s just stop watching that channel. How could they do that to JYJ and JYJ’s fan domestically and internationally. This obviously marred the images of Korean entertainment industry. I come to love korea becoz of TVXQ and JYJ. I loved Korea so much to the extend I wish I was born Korean. The impact of hallyu which is getting bigger everyday will definitely put into halt with this type of attitude shown by SM and KBS. The real loser will be Korea herself.
KBS doens’t care if a few people boycott them. They won’t even know it’s happening. Just sayin’. ^^ (I admire your good intentions!)
yes.. me too.. i love korea because JYj expecially.. but when they make this ridiculous thing.. thats effect my interested for korea.. it become loose..
Err, guys… Sorry to ruin anything, but I read all of the comments (well, most), and think that everyone should know that the Korea-sucks-now thing might be backfiring. It seems that the “top 3 comments” mentioned on this site are kind of misleading – other top comments not mentioned on here were things like “JYJ should just go off to America if they have so many fans” and “So embarassing, I guess JYJ doesn’t even care about their nation as long as they do well”. The haters (who are missing out on a lot) also made up this screwed up nickname for JYJ. They call JYJ “죄와죄 (Jweh Wa Jweh)” which literally means “sin and sin”.
In other words, some people are misdirecting their anger of being embarrassed at JYJ instead of KBS/possibly SME – the obviously guilty ones.
I do feel a bit ashamed to be from the same people who made such ignorant and insensitive comments article. I could tell from the names, though, that a lot of the haters were guys. ㅡㅡ
Sone, perhaps?
and NO, I’m not bashing anybody here.. just maybe~
Which is exactly why Jimmie has been asking us to post the official statement of the international fans instead. The statement is more professional as viral as the comments above are.
I also read a comment where it mocks JYJMinnesota as just full of cornfields or whatever.
Haters will exist, but I hope what people get from this is the root of the problem. Backdoor dealings and corruption right under their noses. If we can’t follow Jae’s example fully, at least let’s follow some of it. Be the bigger, better, classier side. In the end, truth will out.
Mmm, I see… and approve (not that my approval really matters haha). I really was overwhelmed by the sudden number of haters, though, although several of them posted multiple times. I honestly didn’t realize that there were so many antis until today, which makes me wonder if they’re 2BSK fans, or if they just read the article today and got pissed.
I don’t really understand what good that this boycotting-Korea thing does, guys… It does embarrass the Koreans, but it also makes some falsely see JYJ as enemies…
I think what international fans want the most is simply justice to be done. If they continue as they are doing now, we WILL make our voices heard. Korea needs to realize that they cannot simply shove Hallyu down the world’s throats and not have the world examine their practices.
I’m not for the boycotting Korean products/Korea either. Korean music industry, yes. Korean broadcasting companies, yes. Korea as a whole, no. Even if I’m not a citizen or have Korean blood, I love that country as well. I have close friends and many friends there.
I think they got the message that we’re watching them at least.
“I don’t really understand what good that this boycotting-Korea thing does, guys… It does embarrass the Koreans, but it also makes some falsely see JYJ as enemies…”
I agree with you totally. I think even casual readers will have feelings of nationalism when people from other countries suddenly bash their country “…BS that S.Korea is filled with.” It’s a natural reaction to defend your country, even if you know KBS/ whatever is wrong. And since the ones badmouthing are JYJ fans, well, JYJ will take the heat too. I’m not saying it’s fair, but there’s always other classier ways of expressing your disappointment.
Excuse me BRB i’m gonna be sick
I REALLY hope this doesn’t backfire. Just that thought of it makes me dizzy. @_@
i had a feeling this would happen. :/ some of the international comments were classy, but many of the other ones were….not so much. like bluefyre said, the official statement of international fans is more professional and (imo) a helluva lot more mature.
“I do feel a bit ashamed to be from the same people who made such ignorant and insensitive comments article. ”
there’s no reason for you to feel ashamed.
the people making asinine comments don’t represent the whole of s. korea nor do they represent you.
i’m grateful to you for telling us how negative some of the comments really are. thanks. =)
I’m ashamed of the international comments who made the same insensitive comments. I wish they were more mature in expressing their displeasure and anger instead of using all capital and curse words and generalizations and such. I’m glad we were heard. I’m just sad because of some of the international comments.
I know. I cringe when I saw the curse words and capslock abuse. Seriously, JYJ can be mature about this, so why can’t we all? I felt betrayed/ cheated too, but I don’t generalise Korea/ Koreans.
I just hope Jae (and Junsu) is too busy with the drama and Chun getting sick and other business matters to go hunting around the internet and see this. You know how he is. I’d hate for him to see that.
BUT, I’d LOVE for him to see the official statement of the international fans. I’m grateful for people like Jimmie and the other sites listed on it.
See THIS
THIS THIS THIS THIS
Is what I was warning about.
THIS! See…
That’s why I said we must be smart and not so emotional
and just spew our anger at all of South Korea because those
who seem to not care will have a ignorant mouth piece towards JYJ.
JYJ love their country, they can distinguish between the goods and bads of
their country. But some just assume by them mingling with the international
world, and the international world reacting in such a way that they’re “selling out”.
Ppl just jump to the wrong conclusions gaahhhH!
Gah, this is what I didn’t want to happen.
Was afraid this would happen since the Korea sucks would stir nationalism and most likely backfire. I hope everything turns out well and international fans are more careful with their comments.
Well, if it continues SM will definitely use the “JYJ has a negative affect on the Hallyu wave” card again. People need to realize that this whole “boycott/hate Korea” campaign is going to come off ignorant, racist and very hypocritical (all of us come from countries that have some form of corruption whether we like it or not). You can’t blame a whole country (Korea) over something that some bad people (KBS and SM) decided to do. I am ashamed as a JYJ fan to see how other fans think it’s okay to bad mouth a country they have never been to and/or insult the place where the people they love are born and
raised.
Amen for your comment.
Exactly exactly.
But that’s the only thing that gets anyone’s attention.
Korea is obsessed with its international reputation. If the comments can focus on how SME & KBS’s chronic behavior makes the country look bad and makes us wonder about the state of their justice system and government, instead of just “omg I hate Korea”, it’d be better. But all past efforts to say “we love Korea but please treat JYJ right” have failed miserably. Gah, I don’t know, there seems to be no solution at all.
Those comments just makes South Korea look even more bad. LOL.
Talk about generalization, SK does it a lot more.
That may be true (although that is another generalization), but that doesn’t help JYJ in any way. We don’t want this ‘battle for JYJ’ to turn into… attempted genocide (exaggeration, I know, but you catch my drift).
I don’t mean to offend, but SK is too patriotic, to the point it’s scary. The Park Jaebum’s case is still bitter in my mouth. It’s like, no one, not even the citizen of SK or a Korean ethnic himself is allowed to bring bad light to the nation. I think that gives off more of a bad Korean image than three entertainers. Those comments up there, tell JYJ to go to America when they give SK bad image would be the first to welcome them once JYJ makes it in America, because then JYJ is going to promote their nation. It’s so hypocritical and contradictorily. And if I can go further, the sexist jokes on the shows, the double standards. Male chauvinism. Also, South Korea is so direct in greed. I know all nations are greedy, but SK is just so direct. I can understand that it’s a young growing democratic state, but if this keeps up, it’s not good. Already corruption is so clear. All nations are corrupted, but because SK is so direct with their greed, their corruption is also direct. These two goes hand in hand together. Actually, I think if someone/thing is to blame for Korean’s bad image, it would be this Hallyu thing, especially Kpop. The music brings out the greed. The agencies, groups, the idol shows, the Ministry of Gender Equality. (How the hell can your music grow when everything is banned) Sorry to go off on this, but those comments you posted trigger something in my mind that I have formed up so long long ago, after I found Kpop. It’s not TVXQ/JYJ, but it’s Kpop in all that gives me the bad image of S Korea.
I pray to god that SK’s court isn’t corrupted. If it is, boy… lost hope in a young democratic state.
@Pea thats a bit much dear
Those things are not unique to South Korea
I’ve seen a lot of that all around the world
If you think it only happens in SK you’re mistaken
There is a lot of chauvinism in Asia/the world in general.
Plus there are positives about SK
but their ent. industry is F’ed up
and yes the Park Jaebeom thing was a disgrace but really there are two sides to everything and you have failed to highlight a single positive aspect!
^ i even though i’m not korean find your post offensive
@Juno. I did said that I found these things through Kpop and wanted to highlight that Kpop is the real problem to Korea’s bad image. I wasn’t talking about Koreans ( the people in all ). I know that there are male chauvinist in Asia. Since I am a vietnamese/asian myself. And I even went to Vietnam a few months ago. I don’t know how it is in SK, but through Kpop, and constant murdering news of male killing their foreign wives. It leaves bad taste in the mouth. My post wasn’t to highlight positive aspects, it was clearly negative, so I don’t know why you bring that up. /kanyeshrug.
Honestly, I know it’s offensive, but those are my thoughts and I wanted to highlight that Kpop /Hallyu alone bring Korea in bad light to retaliate to those comments about JYJ. It wasn’t meant to be positive.
Here comes the positive. I like their dramas, recently I have noticed that dramas are improving and I have always thought that Dramas is the forced behind the Hallyu, not the Kpop music. As well as it’s fashion scene.
I still pray for SK court to not be corrupted.
@Juno
I did know that all nations are corrupted and greedy. I did say so in my earlier post. Your post sound like looking down on my intelligent. It’s much more offending than what I wrote regarding a nation.
That’s unfortunate but I highly doubt it is reflective of average Koreans’ viewpoints. These are probably people who have been specifically rallied to go there and say those things. A bunch of Sones and people paid by SM. That’s what hotel girls did for months and months.
Also unfortunate is that expressing intentions to boycott Korea is the ONLY way ANYONE will pay attention. It’s VERY clear that the only thing the powers that be care about in any of this “hallyu wave” crap is the ability to make money and make Korea look good in the eyes of the international community. Thus the ONLY way to get any possible justice for JYJ in Korea EVER is to make it clear that Korea will lose money and have its image tarnished if they don’t fix this shit. I think it’s good to have outpourings from many many individuals in addition to one official position of “international fans.” Looks more real.
No real good solution.
I’m going to agree with your statement. While I recognize there are folks who don’t feel the ‘boycott’ is a good thing, there are too many examples worldwide, that say the opposite. The premier one being South Africa. Is the situation identical? No, but the principles are the same.
When there is injustice, and you want to use non-violent means to secure a just outcome, you find a way to get the abuser’s attention. The ENTIRE world community stepped up to the plate when even banning from international participation didn’t work. Peaceful demonstrations, op-ed pieces, boycotts, and finally, here is the real economic part – divestiture of investment in the economy of South Africa.
Stockholders in global businesses, municipal pension funds who were invested, and others with financial stakes in the economy of South Africa, finally brought her to her knees. The apartheid govt. recognized this was not going to stop. The status of pariah was being elevated to new heights.
The point I’m making is, economic pressure does work. It does not have to reflect on the people. The issues with So. Africa were much more viscious of course, but the only way to get the GOVERNMENT’S attention was to put it on notice. The injustice you are inflicting, and in this case, allowing to be inflicted, is not going unoticed.
A just and fair democracy does not behave in this fashion. It is correct to call them on this. If you want to be a major player on the world stage, you should not be in the position of being a bad example. If you have laws, live up to them. If you allow unscrupulous businesses to run your country, who are you to tell others what to do.
How ironic is that the Secretary General of the United Nations is a native from South Korea. He is sworn to lead the organization against countries that mistreat their own citizens and those of other countries. His own country is treating its young as if they are criminals when all they want is simple justice.
For this situation to come to a conclusion, South Korea needs to know the international community is appalled at the way JYJ are being treated. If economic sanctions is the only non-violent way to get that message across, then so be it. You use what you have. It would be nice if this could be accomplished with everyone singing kumbaya, but that is not going to happen.
South Korea cannot be allowed to assume they can export their Hallyu Wave entertainment at the expense of JYJ. As in all things, when the maker of the products that are being marketed don’t meet the expectations of th consumer, they work to improve them to the consumer’s statisfaction. It took a while, but the American auto industry got the message when AMERICANS began buying FOREIGN imports. That was a form of boycott as well.
I agree with your post. Sometimes, we are left with no choice and have to deal with it. This is also one method of fighting for justice. I hope people will be more wiser before judging other people. They cannot expect everyone to behave nice and good when in reality “nice and good” is not enough. It’s like proverb: there are many roads to go to Rome. There are also many form of fighting for justice. As long as you don’t hurt other people, then it’s okay. I don’t see this protest is against Korean citizen, but more so against Korean Entertainment Industry.
We cannot please everyone. You do what you thing is the right thing to do (even though you will be hated for it). If we allow other people opinion to dictate our action then we are same like KBS and others who dictate by SME. If your action makes you suffering in the future, then so be it. At least, you have tried your best and have no regret.
do not worry JYJ has many antifans
dbsk5 remember that was a group with many antifans
I still love korea
but I do not like his music companies or Korean tv
Jae showed that loves Korea and jeju
They are loved but also much hated
sorry for my english
I guess, in general, ppl are ignorant about the particular issue and respond to what is close to their personal issues than a principle one…The same types of comments can be found in yahoo, mbc or any website….*shrug*
good job CASSIE
What does it matter, which country each of us are from…………all I can say is “together we stand ,together we are united ,together we support JYJ and assist in whatever way we can because we all LOVE JYJ …I suppose nobody in Korea who holds higher authorities would have thought that JYJ International Fan base can be so vocal . Well ,sorry to disappoint them because most of JYJ fans are working people who may also hold high position in their organization and
do know what is right and what is wrong. so SM/KBS better not take things for granted and take us for a fools.
Haters are probably jealous because they haven’t completed 2 successful dramas and a viral advertisement like Chun; they haven’t made almost half a million from one single musical like Junsu; and they haven’t the heart of Japan like Jae.
Without light there are no shadows. Without shadows there is no light.
one word for SM n KBS “STUPID” =))))
“Now, domestic fans are not the only thing to worry about.”
Don’t tell me they’re unaware that we’re watching them.
““I’m embarrassed. Even though I do not pay much attention to nor like JYJ that much, seeing this makes me feel embarrassed””
Eek…you should. Not take that embarrassment and do something to relieve it by getting involved.
“I am afraid that foreign fans who have come to love Korean because of liking JYJ will come to hate Korea. I don’t have anything to say to foreign fans, just don’t hate everything about Korea.”
My point. I wish the same for those who look at my country with a weary eye.
“Foreign fans know of everything that is happening within the country. Foreign fans who planned on seeing JYJ perform have cancelled their hotel and flight reservations. This is not just a lost chance at earning foreign money, but an international embarrassment.”
See KBS, it hurts you more than helps to be on SM’s side.
Stop it. Do what you know is best. If the popularity is there, LET IT BE. Regardless of who the artist is.
Don’t deny it because SoMeone tells you who’s ‘more effective’ and ‘popular’.
Finally we at least are being heard…we hear them all the time ( through translation) but I assume they (general domestic peoples) rarely see our feedback.
As for the musician, do JYJ even know this site, that we spazz day in and day out in English, for them. Do any K-artist know their ifansite?
So glad we’re being heard.
LOL KBS and JeJu governors are so cool. they even suceeded doing this “internationally-recognized fraud”, cheating hundreds thousands ppl to get vote. A++++ for them!!
We are all so sad and dont know why KBS do like that ? we from Cambodia
they’re scared that people in around the world will see our boys performed live because this event airing live in kbs world. Our boys so amazing perfect and if people see them they will love our boys and become new fans…So SM and KBS must be really really scared…I hate them..
I don’t think KBS or SME cares what people think. If they did, they wouldn’t keep on blocking JYJ. They are like gangster thugs that disregard the law. They come out with these outrageous reasons why they are doing what they do and start pointing fingers and passing the buck to the next guy. Maybe one of the ways to stop SME is to stop buying products from their artist. Yes, even at the expense of SME artist who we are also fans of (Super Junior, Shinee to name a few). Because I don’t think SME will stop. They are out for revenge against JYJ and are blatant about how they go about doing it.
ahhh~ yayyyy.. I’m the Egyptian fan who commented with that.. feeling so proud that what I could do anything even if it makes them worry.. but what I said was true though.. I used to love/buy everything that is korean because of JYJ *I loved them when they were still in DBSK* but nowdays I feel frustrated at my LG fridge.. and my Daewoo car.. and my hyundai microwave.. etc. Seriously.. I feel like I have been cheated to love and trust a country that is mistreating the people I love and those people who made me love this country in the first place..
I always speak but I always feel that my voice is not heard but now I know that every small comment can count…
Happy that your voice is heard.
i think it could named KBS = Korean Broadcasting for SM only
what the hell they are? so cruel to JYJ….. they also Korean citizen… it’s not fair ever…
and what the hell by called SNSD = Angels of Heaven????
sorry i am so angry…. please do not bashed me….
thanks
I heard someone name it Keep Bull Shitting.
still watching right now fx perform in kbs for jeju..not many audience and people seems not interested in fx performance..really sad to see it wish our lovely jyj was there to perform..
really!!!!!:)
hahahaha…… enjoyed
It’s on now?
Eeeekkk ha ha ha.
are u serious about no many audience dear??
That’s a damn good news…made my day…xD
Wow, you’re right. fx isn’t on any more (it’s the end of the show) but the crowd looks bored to death and is really small. it doesn’t look like it’s even set up to accommodate a very large audience I’m sure when its rerun millions of bodies and tons of screaming will be edited in there LOL a la 2008 Dream Concert.
Really? Looks normal to me though. Besides, I don’t think it was ever meant to be a big-scale concert anyway right?
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Why are we advertising SME artists on a JYJ fansite?
haha…
Um, I’m not. (gahh can’t. edit. previous. comment.) I meant to only put a link for those who want to judge for themselves the audience reaction, rather than just take someone’s word for it. I meant no offence to anybody, and I apologise if anyone’s offended by it in any way.
are they even singing live, seems lypsync, sorry not familiar with their singing
Wow, watching this hurts a lot more than i thought it would.
and why are you posting it here, you’re adding insult to injury
just asking dear
Ah, sorry. I meant to put a link only if anyone’s interested (rather than take someone’s word for it on the audience reactions) but I’m not sure how wordpress works. Didn’t mean to rub it in people’s faces, no offence meant by me. Also I didn’t mean to put it up so people can bash the girls too. I’d edit my comment if I could. How DO you do that anyway? I really can’t get around wordpress =/
I wonder why korean cassies didn’t do anything. How come they are so calm this time? I feel like only the international fans have gone wild over this kbs issue.
What do you want them to do, though? That’s the thing, I don’t think anyone has any idea what would be effective. :\
I don’t know actually but i only saw the news of international fans outraging over this and haven’t heard that k- cassies boycotting or whatever.
@nicoleyt Boycotting what, though? Stop watching KBS? KBS doesn’t care! Those kinds of boycotts are totally useless, especially since at any given time tons of Koreans are boycotting KBS for any number of reasons. I think no one has any idea what to do because every single action so far has done no good at all. TT_TT
@kencana dewi
Not to burst the bubble but I also watched it from beginning to end and there were lots of people and the cheers for both fx and snsd are super loud..
i think snsd, f(x) and their fans are used too.so that there will be a fanwar between them and jyj fans.we will get many enemies and those people who plan this are laughing and celebrating at our misery.i am not a great fan of snsd and i don’t even know f(x) much but something is sure not rite in this whole situation.and they know haters will enjoy this.
And I absolutely dont want to hear any KBS announcement after the program.. when everything is too late.. KBS keep telling lies and more lies.. we dont need anymore lies from them.. we understood very well how corrupted they are.. and if they think JYJ fans are fools to believe their bullshit, then they should think twice!!
they don’t care what JYJ fans think, they are only trying to save face in front of the general Korean public.
I think they are gonna gloat in our faces, sadly we can’t do anything…
I really wanna no wat will happen 2nite. Cassies are planning sumthing, arent they??? hopefully they will do sumthing to make KBS n SM to open their eyes *praying*
i just saw a fancam……and it seemed normal? DAMN IT
Yeah it seems normal!!! I really want that place “EMPTY!!!” or the audience singing “EMPTY” for them!!!!
WTF
The fact that they had only 4 days left for the performance, they probably pulled people into this concert for free. These are most likely not JYJ fans, especially when you see all the international fans say they’re not going to Jeju anymore.
I saw the vedio too. But I do not think there are many people. And also some maybe fake fans employed by SME.
The thing about international fandom is that we come from different countries with different cultural backgrounds, we react differently on face of adversary.
People saying those bad comments are making JYJ look bad should think about all the success of anything the boys promote. Negative comments are seen when injustice is served. I don’t condone most of the comments but I won’t blame any JYJ fan or anyone who is tired of seeing this abuse to three boys trying to be free. You’ve all read KBS’ comments on the matter and it straight up insulting.
Don’t let haters discourage you, u r free to fight and be angry. Whenever i read JYJ supporters angry comments i see fustration.
I COMPLETELY AGREE 100%!!! Took the words right out of my mouth! To be honest it comes with the territory. You can’t expect to advertise yourselves globally and expect only positive feedback. They have to learn to accept the good with the bad and know when some things need to change, period.
Kbs want to play with us, so now its time for us to play with them. For me, the whole korean industry are a joke and bunch of liar. They don’t have justice and the government are powerless.
Jyj lets fighting until the end! I don’t listen to any korea song anymore except our boys song…
Ah, they really should be a bit more worried about international fans. I was really into everything from South Korea and was planning to go for a visit there but then I learned about JYJ and all the obstacles they are facing and now I cannot even bring myself to like any SM artists anymore. I went to SMTown in Paris before this, spent a lot of money and now I regret it. It may not be the artists’ fault but I also cannot force myself to support them.
I know that people don’t know much about SK and their entertainment industry in my country and they won’t hear any good from me on the subject
Just want to share, this issue has also posted in Indonesia entertainment website :
http://hot.detik.com/music/read/2011/07/20/124216/1685126/1180/bermasalah-dengan-sm-jyj-tidak-bisa-tampil-di-kbs
(TRANS) Troubled with SM, JYJ can not performed in KBS
Thank you!!
Yes its true indeed .. I hate korea i hate korean product I hate all about korea except jyj.
pls tell me you’re trolling
lol pm. i wouldn’t be surprised if rainscarlet, xiahfever, and iska are the same troll. i give them a d- for making the attempt so obvious, but an a+ for effort.
(though, of course, maybe they’re not trolls…which is even more pathetic.)
Don’t be too extreme.
I’m very disappointed as a int’l fan. Yes me too, I come to like Korea because of JYJ, I ‘m going to hate Koeea also because of JYJ. I agree on not buying Korea products in the future unless they treat JYJ properly
Arrrrggggh I’m so mad .. Why isn’t the stadium empty ??? Those are probably all kbs and sm staff gathered there .. Ok just kidding
but seriously I’m so madddddd .. And sk shouldn’t mess with jyj anymore coz this will be the results .. I’m from the united Arab emarites and jyj/tvxq fandom is really big .. For example most of my class girls are fans so don’t you dare kbs and say your fake snsd and fx are more effective .. At least fx sings live .. But snsd is lipsyncing even in japan for gods sake .. Ahhhhhhh I’m pissed offfffffff ….. Sad to see this happening in sk although I loved this country due to jyj/tvxq .. But what is happening now is really really disapponting *Sigh*
Can anybody write a review of what happen in jeju on 20th july? maybe jyj fans action or do the ceremony just doing fine and well?? I really want to hear something about that… sorry for sudden request~
I think KBS-SME-JEJU action is very loud and clear. That combo have planned this from the begginning with the purpose to insult JYJ and the fans.
what is this? i’m usually fanatic to everything about korea bcoz of JYJ but now i dont think so.my parents juz allowed me to go 4 a holiday in korea as my birthday present but seems like going to New York is much better.I wont ever simply tell people that koreans are good.not anymore!!!!!
Sometimes I just get the feeling those companies think we’re stupid.
I don’t hate Korea, not at all, and “hate” is such a strong word… I despise the general idea that international fans can’t affect their decision and people are just going to accept that without a single word. I despise the fact that we’re submersed by lies and, even if they tell the truth, we’re just not going to believe it.
I despise their lack of sincerity. And that’s, in my opinion, why they’re never going to make it as big as they want outside the Asia.
Why do I feel like we (international fans) are the only ones reacting so wild about this ??
It seems like Korean cassies and bigeast are so calm
please if anyone here is/understands Korean/Japanese tell us about their reaction and what did they do to help jyj … Thankyou
There are. According to Korean news yesterday, more than 7,300 korean fans signed a petition to ask for KBS’s apology to JYJ on DAUM web. Korean fans are tough!
it have been more than 11k ad….
i dun understand with some ot5 fan actually.. they criticize jyj fans for being too aggresive with this incident…
they even said that jyj will be sad with what we done…
i mean seriously????
if we dun do this, those heartless people will always mess with boys…
plus d boys only have us d fans as their strong supporter…. if we dun fight for jyj then who else will???
jyj hwaiting!!!!!!!!
I agree with you. If we keep silence, SM will do the same thing again easily.
Considering their fanclub still has over 700,000 members, how come the petition is around 11k only? Come on!!! U guys can do more than this. We need both domestic and international support!!! Since their country don’t care about this injustice, we need to fight for them!!!
@nicoleyt That “fanclub” is just an online cafe that is mostly deserted. It’s pro-Homin and frequented mostly by teenagers. Its members show up at JYJ concerts and hand out OT5 propaganda. There is no unified group of 700,000 Koreans supporting JYJ.
@Am I the only one who sees the big picture? Thanks for ur explanation. I don’t expect the petition to be 700,000 but i think it should be more than that. I don’t even know what we can do for them anymore. Sigh… I just want to wish all the best for them.
^^ i have a question how many koreans actually know JYJ
and how well known are they individually?
@JUNO In my experience, many people need to have it explained to them that JYJ is the 3 members who quit TVXQ. Not that many know them as “JYJ”. Everyone knows them individually, of course. Since JYJ are mostly absent in all normal forms of media, there aren’t that many ways for people to become familiar with the name. In order to find JYJ stories in the media, you have to actively search for them by name – they’re always pulled off the front pages and portals.
I also feel the same!!! Have cassies abandoned our boys already? Please do something to help JYJ!!!
I love SNSD but I hate SM & KBS who make them victim from evil power who put the girl in bad situation.
Firstly, we need to stir the water so that our voices are known. All this while SK never even bother even to stop and listen to us international fans. It a good strategies…both positive and negative comments. SK fan need to know different cultures people voices out their anger and frustration. To stand up if there is injustice.
Secondly, SK is trying to promote their products and cultures to other countries, using mostly Kpop or K entertainment. It the risk they have to face…when other ppl around the world start to gain interest on SK – and its artists…it should be expected there will be lots of comments..positive and negative. They need to realize today the world seem borderless media and info. So…business and politics are becoming transparent.
And..dbsk/Tvxq was the first successfull group that have big international fans…most of them still loyal ot5 and or to our beloved JYJ. With JYJ world tour concert added more international fan. KBS should take concerned on this…but yet KBS belittled JYJ fans.
JYJ fighting.
read this: http://www.mediajeju.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=114643
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btw its not d fans shud hold d ‘im sorry placard’ but those heartless people…..
What does it says? I can read Korean but don’t fully understand it, yet
i use google translator though but d translation is a mess…
they said jyj japanese fans came to d concert n write those word ‘im sorry’ , ‘jyj 4ever’….
i feel sorry for d japanese fans who came to see jyj but instead they get dissapointment…
~sigh
And this is just the beginning, I hope this will teach them that you don’t mess with JYJ like that -___-
another MISSION!!!!! r u guys ready???? here we go—–>
d english version of jeju news site:
http://www.jejuweekly.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=1772
http://www.mediajeju.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=114643 LOL I love the notebook pages!
i really wanted to reply to this article but it wouldnt let me register and it only tells me something in Korean so i dont even know why! i had a great comment aswell! *huffs* #AngryFan
now I really didn’t interst with korea exp JYJ..
it’s really hurt to know JYJ can’t perform in there..
damn..
i don’t hate korea XD i still love it ^_^ cause of food, shopping and more but i will BOYCOTT any korean ent companies product except JYJ’s == i cannot stand their nonsense anymore.
i’m very outraged with the bullying and unfair treatment towards JYJ by
the Korean Broadcasting Station, KBS and SM!!!
i came to love Korea because of DBSK and JYJ..
But now…i truly very dissapointed with Korea T_____T
On a positive note, Cassies & JYJ makes me very proud be a fan!!!
JYJ/CASSIES, KEEP FIGHTING, LETS UNITE AND WIN THIS WAR!!
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can see this picture is make from fan then you fell good
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1147382346?pn=1
or just see in here
What can we do for JYJ when this has been happening for so long. Should I say about 1-2 years now. So, enough is enough. How can we continue to have respect for Korea when even its own government runned station KBS finds an outside power stronger than it’s own people. Also, to a government who has no authority to protect it’s own citizens from companies like SM.
Personally, to see this kind of treatment is one expected of one who has disgraced society but to see it happen to someone that is just fighting to protect their rights it’s disappointing to see. I find it very difficult to swallow so lightly as some people have.
Don’t worry, you are not alone. Some of them are more vocal about it and some not. But, the feelings and the action to boycott Korea is the same.
It’s about time that jyj fans to boycott SM.
A lot of cassie still support the both sides but we cannot protect JYJ if we still support HoMin. I love HoMin and I love other sm group too but I can’t support sm anymore and it’s the only way to protect JYJ.
Please don’t involve HoMin anymore. JYJ fans already moved on from that point. The last thing we need is endless fanwars between HoMin and JYJ fans.
Didn’t watch the show…honestly…Sunrise Peak-the place they held the show- is really really beautiful…I went there up to the top and it’s just gorgeous but with this scandal and the fact that all these being played onto JYJ-it hurts me to no end. I honestly love Jeju…but this is too much. I can understand if some fans saying that we’re over-reacting but put their idols in JYJ’s place; how will they feel?
I don’t mean to bash the girls or any group but seriously…when they said that the girls are more famous-more effective…it’s like a slap in the face…some fans are saying that we shouldn’t be so emotional-but heck if we don’t do anything…nothing will ever change….and seriously…they don’t need the local’s vote-they should be appealing to the international fans! I don’t get what they are saying and KBS are just BShting…
Now I wonder should I really go to Korea for my Master degree or not *sigh*
I think it depends on what major you are going to attend. But, If I were you, I will prefer going to Singapore or Australia. The degree will be more appreciated than degree from Korea.
The girls more famous more effective???? What planet do they live on?
does anyone know the best places to leave comments? because i still have more to say and need somewhere were people may take notice! *gets ready to resume angry venting*
I came to like Korea from making friends w/ a Korean in school. From her I got interested in the language, food, items, etc and the music – even the traditional music. For awhile though, I got busy and ignored Korean music, then found Kpop in 2007 thru DBSK via Youtube.
I don’t hate Korean people, just feel disappointed that they can’t band together and tell the ‘powers that be’ that KBS/SME/etc (like radiostations or whatever) are banning JYJ from being promoted or pulling dirty stunts like this. I want the Korean gov to WAKE UP (quote: Max/Avex) and smell the coffee regarding what’s going on. And if the Korean gov does know then I want them to get off THEIR FANNY and do something NOW about it. Not sit around and “legislate” about it for years.
ok, /rant off
If boycotting KBS would do no good, can Koreans “picket”? Stand in front of KBS and show picket signs and chant something? I would pay to see that.
I see my Americanism is showing…..
I just want the SK courts to hurry up and finalize the decision regarding JYJ vs. SME (of course in the boys’ favor) so this whole mess can be over and JYJ can freely be artists in their own country. Also I want the gov to revamp how the entertainment industry does business so this NEVER happens to another person who wants to become an artist in any field. No stunting growth, no starving artist, no “favors” to do what you love, no slave clauses, etc. JUST SAY NO to greedy companies!
Yes!! I think as long as we stay together strong, we can help JYJ to go through the dark ways!! Keep fighting!!! WE WILL SUPPORT YOU GUYS!!!
I’m sooooo glad they covered this & I’m HAPPY that Domestic fans realize how much of an international embarassment this is to their country. Really, i’m sooooo disappointed & frustrated with KBS Jeju & Jeju Govt & SM.
Its really good that they finally recognize us international fans~hopefully something will be done about this. We can’t stop here~ we have to keep fighting for JYJ. its not fair & as a fan, I really want to help JYJ through these bad times.
JYJ hwaiting. i’m soo proud of JYJ’s fandom, btw, for standing up & uniting together to go against such nonsense.
Even those who aren’t JYJ fans realize this injustice. I pray justice will be done to those who caused this on JYJ & us fans