The JYJ concert “2011 JYJ UNFORGETTABLE LIVE CONCERT IN JAPAN” will be held this weekend at the National Hitachi-kaihin Park in Hitashinaka, Ibaraki. But behind the scenes the activities of Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yoochun, the three who left Tohoshinki, were met with more trouble.
As a result of the break up and contract troubles, Changmin and Yunho have activities. Their management company Avex formerly managed the three members of JYJ and the three had concerts. However Avex unilaterally announced the suspension of the activities of JYJ in Japan citing JYJ’s Korean management company’s ties to the mafia. JYJ protested this decision claiming that Avex knew about this when signing the contract. (T/N: This article misreports in that C-JeS never had mafia ties but its CEO, Mr. Baek, did have a prison record of which Avex was well aware from the very beginning.) The three resumed activities with the support of another company. However the two companies are still in dispute over the contract.
“A fan pleaded to the CEO of Avex, Masato Matsuura on twitter to stop obstructing JYJ’s activities. He replied ‘This is not obstruction. It’s a contractual problem. In other words a promise,’ revealing his intent to keep fighting. Avex requested sports newspapers and other media outlets to stop reporting on JYJ and as a result the name JYJ has practically disappeared from most media.” (Reporter for a sports newspaper)
Although it has been ignored for the most part by the media, both sides have been battling fiercely. There was a case when JYJ tried to hold a charity concert sponsored by the new company, but the arena canceled under pressure from Avex.
This time another incident has caused shock waves among fans.
“JYJ fans, worried that the media was ignoring JYJ, gathered donations to place an advertisement for JYJ’s concert in the Ibaraki Newspaper. The Ibaraki Newspaper was also positively considering publishing the advertisement. However, suddenly, just before submitting the manuscript, the fans received a call from the newspaper informing them that the advertisement had been canceled.” (Reporter for a weekly magazine)
The cancellation happened after the advertisement’s size, price, and wording had all been confirmed. The reason given was “JYJ is in the midst of a lawsuit” “Their concert has been canceled before”, and “The venue has received a call protesting against the concert” and as a result it was decided that the JYJ advertisement did not meet the newspaper’s requirements.
Enraged fans responded angrily “They knew about the lawsuit from the beginning” “Is this harassment from Avex?”
We asked people at the Ibaraki Newspaper about details of the cancellation of the advertisement.
“We have been sued in the past because of what we published, so the fact that they were in the midst of a lawsuit was the biggest problem for us. But although this decision was made after much discussion, personally I feel troubled by this cancellation. This was a very unique and good opportunity where ordinary people were supporting the artist but …”
The newspaper has denied that they were pressured by Avex. However the weekly magazine reporter points out that the result is that Avex wins.
“If the reason that the advertisement was cancelled was because of the lawsuit, that means that Avex’s negative campaign worked. The credibility of the artist is notably damaged and they are very limited in their activities just because they are in the midst of a legal dispute.”
How long will this situation of not being able to support JYJ even from the shadows continue? The fans who initiated the advertisement say that the money gathered for the advertisement will be pooled and used for another JYJ support project in the future. How will this fight end?
Source: Cyzo Woman
Translation by: rieco77 for TheJYJFiles
Shared by: JYJ3
I feel like going into Avex’s next shareholder’s meeting and kicking each and every one of them in the crotch.
SO PISSED RN.
They can do even less in Japan than they could even at the worst times in Korea.
LMAO xD YEAH! let’s go do that! haha provided that they all have balls that is…oh well all that matters is that MAX. M has one…oh wait…he doesn’t :p
“I feel like going into Avex’s next shareholder’s meeting and kicking each and every one of them in the crotch.”
MTE. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
>=( I feel like chopping their balls off!! Cause we know they lack them!!
*sigh* Bust seriously this sucks…….I mean no matter how many hurdles we jump there are always bigger ones interfering >.>
We fans have remain strong and united, JYJ still has us and we won’t let them down!
@misaki22
They have balls??? Those tiny winy little thingy are their balls??? I thought they are just fleas hanging on there
omfg i died reading this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
LOL @grannyestee…..hahhaha
Grannyestee@ your word is so 0o
LOL XD
So instead of being angry, I’m sad. When will this all end? Don’t worry JYJ, when you win your Grammy(s) all these people will regret what they did. Wishful Thinking…..
Cyzo..this is one time I could agree with you. A-hole-vex need to be brought to court for their blocking.
i know right. Cyzo can do some random stories but at least this one makes sense.
I hope the rumors about Jaejoong or CJes meeting with Avex to figure out the contract are true and a result will come out of them. It is sad for me to say this (and Avex totally doesn’t deserve it) but if their was a way JYJ could pay to make Avex leave them alone in Japan…..I wish they would take that option.
Even if thy have to fork out a lot to shut them up…………in the long run their career in Japan will restart and they will definitely gain more fans and more overall profits than what they make in Korea currently.
So in the end JYJ would be making more money…..and wouldn’t have to deal with Avex or another lawsuit again.
hm…i don’t think that would work…cause then avex could denie such a thing and use the same stuff later and pull anouther trick on JYJ…unless you mean in a lawsuit? but that would be bad as well cause that would mean JYJ admitting defeat and proving that MAX. M was right all along…
I thought of Avex using the same thing again too even after taking money from them….(it’s not like they haven’t already done this =___=)
But with the payment wouldn’t it work if they wrote a legally binding agreement that Avex had to sign before they handed over the payment.
Is there a rumor like that going on? In that case, I hope it’s true. It’s completely unfair if Avex doesn’t do anything as compensation for what they have been doing to JYJ these past years, but if JYJ/C-Jes can negotiate some kind of terms with Avex so JYJ will be able to promote freely in Japan without any case of censorship, blocking, or tainting their names, then it’s for the better for the boys. If they do that, they’ll be able to perform in stages and gain more fans and profits.
Anyway, I am still proud of JYJ. Despite any blocks done by Avex, they still managed to gather 80,000 viewers for their concert. That’s an immensely huge and successful number for a band that hasn’t been heard in Japan and is blocklisted in advertising. For the meantime, all we can do is promote JYJ as much as we can and stand by their sides until all this gets resolved, and of course, until the very end. They make us proud, so WE’LL make them proud as well. <3
@yurei
But when you think about it…… 80,000 people just showed up in the middle of a remote province of Japan and watched a concert outdoors, some of it in the rain over the weekend. !! That’s major, kids. That’s big-time show business, as big as it gets. That’s one and a half Tokyo Dome numbers, with all promotions working flawlessly, everybody doing their jobs, ads going in without a hitch, TV advertisements, the works. Only JYJ just did it with NOTHING. Just on the strength of saying, “Hey, we’ll be there.”
What’s going on here with JYJ right now is a phenomenon quite unlike anything anyone has seen before. And it’s going to get bigger. I’m going to predict that the concerts in Europe are a huge success too. They will come home from them even stronger and with more self-assurance than they have NOW. Plus, other countries will also be clamoring for them. This thing with JYJ is snowballing. Can’t you feel it?
So while I want the super-snit that AVEX is in to be over too, it somehow rankles to think of JYJ having to pay THEM.
It might be expedient but is it really necessary? What would start happening in Japan that isn’t happening now? JYJ just walked away with in the neighborhood of 6 million dollars for a weekend’s work. I say, let their lawyers go through the standard negotiating procedures that they are already well into. From all reports, every last one of JYJ’s contracts (as part of TVXQ as well as JYJ) with AVEX is up at the end of the year. In any case, C-jeS has sued AVEX to be released from the contract and for back royalties, the lawsuit is in progress. Let’s just see what happens for a while longer. I expect something to be announced by the end of the year.
No. All that is needed is for the Korean court to end the lawsuit with the proper verdict. Cancel the whole JYJ vs. SME contract and that will also erode any contract Avex thinks JYJ has with them through SME. Because the one that JYJ signed at the beginning of the lawsuit with avex is over already. After the court verdict anyone who talks sh_t will know they’re talking sh_t, even the broadcasting stations.
That works too….but because the companies can get this far without being unchecked I am still feeling skeptical about JYJ being ‘let go’ after the lawsuit verdict. The final verdict hasn’t even been reached yet and SME still have to send in a re-appeal which everyone knows they will.
WTH IS THE COURT DOING?
I seriously always thought it was fishy that the last judge got a higher position in his field so he dropped/passed on the JYJ lawsuit to another judge. Isn’t the same judge supposed to cover one lawsuit before getting repositioned? =____=
It’s just stretched because the new judge has to study the material presented since the beginning.
Can we not pressurize the court some more internationally or can Korean fans not do anymore to speed up the case?
And what happened to the damn FTC verdict where they were supposed to ‘fine’ SME for all their blocking…….where did that disappear to?
Well, you need hard proof that SME hinders the, but you saw what all those suckers from media said, right? “No, there wasn’t any pressure on us”… so yeah, that verdict is as well as useless right now, I suppose
Quite frankly what you are suggesting is extortion. That is a crime. Yes, it is unseemly that it is taking so long for things to come to a conclusion, but I for one would never want to see a payoff being made to Avex for ANY reason. Slugs like this do not have sense of honor. If they did, none of this nightmare would be taking place as it is.
Patience is hard, but in the end doing it the right way is the only way. I want the guys to be able to hold their heads up no matter how long it takes. One simply does not elevate a sleaze of a company like Avex in this manner. No. No.
That won’t work. SM offered Super Junior and Girls Generation to Avex, assumably (this allegation was reported in Asahi news papers once) in return for terminating its contract with JYJ. They probably thought and still think that they could make a lot more money by working with SM, not just for exclusive contracts with Girls Generation and Super Junior but also for future contracts with more idols coming out of SM.
I feel so boxed in a confined when reading this article. Imagine how JYJ feel.
But even though, the fact remains – 80,000 fans watched their concert last weekend. Block them like this so oppressively, Avex. You will not win because JYJ genuinely love their fans and create their music from the heart. Nothing you do can stop them.
all i can say is JYJ fighting, JYJ fans fighting
GOD NEVER SLEEP, just wait and keep fighting guys
aljkdashfjklahfjdakj well…..seems that JYJ are slowly but surely advancing in SK, you know baby steps, but they are in the news section at least….with Japan idek :/ AVEX is a huge company, honestly it eclipses SM and has a hold on Japan to the extend that sm could only dream of, and it seems that back-door pressure over can extend itself to outside of the entertainment sector. This sucks tbh
I hope word starts to go around the japanese fandom and japanaese fans support them with even more vigor. 80,000 fans says a lot, JYJ are clearly loved in Japan, I think it shows a glimmer of hope at least, even without proper promotions, word of mouth by fans can have a significant positive effect. I am comforted by the fact that just like in SK, Japan has more then just idols in their music industry and there are other musicians that survive in Japan w/o backing of such a huge company. JYJ will start from the bottom in Japan, but they already have the upper hand with their large following and SK promoting “hallyu” like crazy, and TVXQ, they are indirectly promoting JYJ as well, hopefully all these factors add up to something positive for them in Japan.
I am wondering, what’s wrong with the media in Korea and Japan? Why they let someone controlling them. It’s against freedom of expression, especially in media section. Japan and Korea is a big country and Japan is the member of G8. But, i don’t understand the way they think. They didn’t write anything about JYJ concert because of they in the middle of lawsuit? That is the most ridiculous answer. In my country, there’s a lot of celebrity in the middle of lawsuit and it doesn’t stop them from the spotlight. No media blocking them. Well, at least i can say that my country is one step ahead in entertainment business than Korea and Japan…Or may be, this blocking thing only happen in Korea and Japan….. Oh Japan and South Korea… Both of you are two of the most powerful country in economic and technology and modern also, unfortunately, some of you, especially in the entertainment business still have conservative mind… For JYJ, this quote is for you…
For leaving SM:
Don’t be afraid to give up the good to go for the great.
(John D. Rockefeller )
For JYJ dreams:
All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them
(Walt Disney)
For JYJ struggles
Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.
(John F. Kennedy)
For JaeChunSu friendship:
There is nothing on this earth more to be prized than true friendship.
(Thomas Aquinas )
Love and Peace
I think it’s more of an issue that people are (purposefully) given wrong information. I mean, if a company like Avex or SMJ gives a media broadcaster a fax where they say that artist X is currently in a complicated lawsuit and that broadcasting them could result in problems for the broadcaster.. they will play it “safe” and not broadcast. Lawsuits are.. very bad in the entertainment business, let me tell you.
So the most important thing now would be to get some statements about their lawsuit WIN in the general media.
There hasn’t been a general press release or any official statement from JYJ/C-Jes at all which is kind of odd… unless of course Leader had planned to take action about this after the concert.. which could also make sense, since they’ve been quiet about this until now.
Avex is disgusting… I’m sorry… But I’m fucking disgusted!!!
JYJ are great artist… U know what you coward companies? As long as JYJ make music, I would buy their album even if I needf to cut my lunch money and NOT buying anything 4 months!
Ha!
I’ll show you that JYJ doesn’t need big companies to success…
Your act only make their fans want to protect them even more… And do not look down on JYJ fan and Cassie, u coward!
*fuming mad*
Cyzo is generally a trash paper, and this article is dramatized too, but they’re not the only ones criticising the situation. Yesterday there was a notice in a radio program (I think that one of the most active JYJ-fans in the Japan scene works in that company, because she was talking about similar things at the concert) about the pressure done by both Avex and SM Japan (on a message board an anonymous writer said that the local tv channel where he works were going to have a feature on JYJ, but SMJ gave the producers papers that made the group look bad and so the producer didn’t want to have a feature and get bad reputation so he cancelled and they featured another artist instead) and in some papers also.
The Ibaraki newspaper ceo also has received a petition to investigate further.. hmm.
:-O that is the best we can hope for though, that fans notice, and people slowly start noticing avex/sm interfering >:-|
I feel like I’m repeating myself, but everything’s so ridiculous by now. I wonder what they’re getting out of this. I have barely any idea of how things are when it comes to Japan, but what is SMent getting out of this all in SKorea, apart from some bad press? And what’s getting Avex out of this, too? I don’t know much about business, but apart from the childish feeling of “if I don’t have you, nobody will”, I don’t get it so if sb has the answer, please enlighten me.
Overall, it’s really sad that this is happening, and sadly will keep happening. Not only they’re messing with JYJ and everyone they work with, but also the fans, and potential fans. I just can hope one day this comes to an end, somehow. Meanwhile… JYJ FIGHTING! We’re here for you and will keep supporting you no matter what <3
I feel that defamation charges should be put against AVEX and SM Japan.
I’m tired of them throwing their weights around and smearing JYJ’s good name.
So fucking bullshit.
wow, this is one of the worst form of bullying. I can’t believe they (Avex & SM) are acting so legitimately, this can’t be legal!
Allways support JYJ.
Avex and SM will die.
Nothing gonna change my love for JYJ
Support JYJ 4ever.
ohh..you remind me “Nothing’s gonna change my love for You”-by Khalil Fong
I am not supprise anymore how devil those company …just very touch with all support our boys had where they went…fans really do their best..I bow to admire..and proud be a member of this family…!!!!!!!!
I think ‘makling a new contract with JYJ after they sued SM ‘ is a one of dirty tactic of and SM to force them back to Tvxq group. When JYJ reject them, Avex will suspend all of JYJ activity in Japan ( like situation now ). Because of this contractual problem, so very difficult for JYJ to resume back their activity in Japan now.
correction “making a new contract”
These are my comments from the posting on JYJFiles…
I want this to make sense to me, but somehow it doesn’t. “They are in the midst of a lawsuit.” Ok, and…. I’m from the West. I simply don’t get it. I understand most countries use a hybrid from of democracy. So, the laws they place in their governing documents may not read the same as they do in the United States. No such thing like this can happen here. The guys were in the midst of their lawsuit when they came over here and put on 3 out 4 concerts in NA. Nobody said a darn thing about not being able to use the facilities. No press cons were cancelled. Ticket agencies posted their concerts and that was that.
When you get played, just stiffen up your backbone and admit it. You are afraid of your own shadow. This kind of nonsense could never happen here. I understand Korea is their native land, and Japan is like a second home to them. But they damn sure would not be treated like this in the United States.”
A FREE PRESS DOES NOT NEED PERMISSION TO CARRY OUT ITS DUTY TO THE PUBLIC. THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION TO THIS. YOU ARE EITHER FREE OR YOU’RE NOT.
A++!!!!
Bwahhahahaha, SM and AVEX must be pissed off that after all these threats and cockblocking, JYJ is still able to sell out 80,000 tickets and their album is still selling like hot cakes.
Never give in.. never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force.. never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.-Winston Churchill
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.-Charles Darwin
Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the approximate, the not-quite, the not-yet, the not-at-all. Do not let the hero in your soul perish, in lonely frustration for the life you deserved, but have never been able to reach. Check your road and the nature of your battle. The world you desired can be won. It exists, it is real, it is possible, it is yours. -Ayn Rand
Nothing new either. I expected that AVEX would behave in this manner. We are all rightfully indignant. And as frustrating as it is, AVEX cannot continue to silence JYJ forever. If the people are willing to take a stand for it, something can be accomplished. And JYJ had a 2 good showings in Japan; we should be celebrating the fact and spread the word as best as we can. If we continue to support them, their voices will be heard. In fact, because AVEX/SM are doing these things, this could put them in a negative light to the public.
matsuura can suck it!
gawd i really hate that man and his cockblocking ways
avex failed
Now more than anything i know that i want to stay by JYJ’s side and fight along with them. Screw those enterprises, we can make it without them. Just keep the faith and keep fighting sisters!
I really don’t understand it. There is nothing wrong to cover news on JYJ, even if they’re in lawsuit case now. What a lame excuse. Media should not be control by the entertainment side. Isn’t that suppose to be the government job? Geez… They can just do their job as a reporter and write the story w/o touching the lawsuit matter. Right? It’s not like they vow loyalty to Avex or other companies.
In US, there are many scandals and lawsuits going now but the differences are they’re all on TV, magazines or newspapers. They still have the freedom to appear. I didn’t know Korea/Japan/Asia are this conservative. ~sigh~
As expected, JYJ is unstoppable. Go JYJ JYJ JYJ JYJ JYJ!!!!
~Avex/SM is sulking at the corner~ Why can’t we stop them?~
Me: Big hammer on my hand and ready ……………………………..
~PAK~x100~ Take that, you @#$%^&*!!! I feel better now.
@rose, ah, I just wanna ask whether u want to try my frying pan but you already grab a big hammer. Well, better late than never. Would u like to try my frying pan? Or do you have one?
They must be awfully fearful of our beloved JYJ and their many many talents!!! don’t they understand by now that no matter how much they block whatever media, JYJ’s popularity just grows and grows?? ^_~ AVEX N SME look ridiculous and shud be very embarrassing to SK and Japan, not to mention showing all the corruption in their industry and their governments!!! to me, it’s totally awesome that they need their 100 idols and groups to get that many ppl to their concerts and all it takes for JYJ IS JYJ!!! ^_~ do they actually think blocking them however they want will cause JYJ to loose all of their kazillion fans all around the world??? IT’S JUST MAKING US MORE SUPPORTIVE AND WANTING TO PROTECT AND LOVE THEM EVEN MORE!!!
So, SME N AVEX~~~give it ur best shot, we R always ready for U and ur scumbag EVIL ways!!! U’ll pay dearly for all ur EVIL doings *crossing fingers* MAY U BURN IN HELL!!! SARANGHAE JYJ!!!
JYJ FIGHTING!!! JYJ FAMILY FIGHTING!!! JYJ3 FIGHTING!!!
No need to use newspaper as medium to get news bout JYJ. We hv other alternatives, and yes the concert was successful w/o being advertised that much by Japan media
that is so true. any idea what else we can do using the internet? avex really got us fired up again.
I can’t imagine the hard time they are going through… We are just audience/fans who are upset and disappointed at the turn of events, and they are facing this never problem with SM in Korea and Avex in Japan. Why are they all after them like hungry hyenas??? Sheesh… i thought the avex problem was solved…
If I had money I woUld take the best first ticket to Japan (and then Skorea) and cut their balls of, even tho don’t have any
Dictatorship of independent companies like SM and Avex , yes in the past it used to be the states but now its a civilian’s company, should civilians be allowed to bully other civilians, soo man bullies JYJ matsura bullies JYJ the entertainment industry bullies JYJ, when JYJ didn’t bully anyone. its a dictatorship of the entertainment industry, the korean entertainment industry is purely dictatorial otherwise no one would punish artst for seeking courts are the korean entertainment industry saying that artist are not civillians and have no right to use the courts ? where should mistreated and unjustified artist go then if not the legal courts ? is going to court punishable by media , in korea and japan its obviously a yes i guess korean artist have no right to use courts voice out and demand for justice they should lt thier mistreatment and injustice and infairly distributed earnings (being cheated of thier money) just go on with no compliant , thats what sm wants from artist , make us money and shut up, dare ask for justice and get punished severely.
shame on korean entertainment industry shame shame allowing other media to bully their own artists.
I realize democracy in Korea is only 60 years young and membership in the UN is only about 20 years young, but it’s sad to see how much corruption exists there hat an Entertainment company can coerce media (tv, radio, newspapers) into blocking NEWS. KBS and others should be ashamed of themselves. Japan media even more so.
we must be patient and continue to support JYJ!!!!
the real entertainer!
AVEX is so disgusting……i don’t even want to type that name….
JYJ doesn’t need the media, they have the JYJ-effect. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ALBUM SALES AND 80,000 FANS AT THEIR CONCERT without any big promotions! the newspapers that suck up to that damned company can go f*ck themselves.
Advertising in newspapers??? In the end it didn’t even matter.
80,000 YES 80,000 PEOPLE PAID MONEY for tickets to attend a concert, for which there was NO ADVERTISEMENT in the mainstream Japanese of Korean media.
WORD OF MOUTH ONLY & …… JYJ FANDOM…
SME and AVEX really need to take note and be afraid, because there is a support system united behind JYJ that they will never be able to control.
For every HUGE roadblock they put in the way of JYJ the Universe opens up a different path, or a workaround that has a GLORIOUS outcome awaiting them, as long as they simply push on in humility and honesty.
People should stop being little immature bitches and let JYJ have their activities without any blockage!
The law is on JYJ’s side, so why not the people and companies? (money sucking wolves)
They should learn when they’ve lost, and JYJ definitely won.