JYJ3 Note: Women Mag-Josei Jishin is a Japanese Tabloid. Please take the information with a grain of salt. Tabloids aren’t a reliable source. But we want our readers know how the Lawsuit between SM and JYJ is being informed in Japan.
Tohoshinki – Settlement called by JYJ “To the stage of 5”
Women Mag-Josei Jishin-July 24, 2012
The trial circulating around the problem of Tohoshinki’s exclusive contract of JYJ confronting SM Ent. The result of the trial was planned to be announced on July 19th at 10am by Seoul Court, but it is understand that they are heading for settlement again since both sides will be appearing for arbitration.
Korean’s Newspaper “Chosun Daily” on the 19TH reported that Yunho (26) and Changmin (24) of Tohoshinki and Jaejoong (26), Junsu (25) and Yoochun (26) of JYJ will be heading for the settlement table.
The three of JYJ sued their previous company, SME on July of 2009. Despite the lawsuit engagement that tainted their reputation that continued for 3 years, maybe they will finally answer the fans wish whom had expected a reunion.
This is the opinion of a Korean lawyer who’s working in Japan, Park In Don.
“When you don’t stand a chance in the court settlement, both of the parties will go for arbitration and discuss. At that time, if they could come to an agreement, there will be a settlement. This time, we could say that “towards a reunion” means both parties could compromise. I think it also a monetary solution strategy.
But…what’s the reason for a reunion at this time?
“The motive is that both parties are already tired of the trial. Tohoshinki and JYJ do not want to prolong the controversy as they don’t want to ruin their image. The one who aimed for an early settlement, but it continued to trial and being restricted from doing their activities in both South Korea and Japan, it should be JYJ
(Korean music authorized person)
Up until now, 6 arbitrations had been rejected. Will the arbitration this time go smoothly and give way for a settlement?
“Even if JYJ received strict conditions, it seems that they’ve decided that “We want to settle this time.” If they could come to settlement conclusion, I think they should be able to stand together as 5 on stage in a music program. As for the Korean music broadcaster side, they are certainly hoping for both groups to appear together…
(Aforementioned music authorized person)
Source: Women Mag-Josei Jishin via Yahoo
Translated by: Helly of JYJ3
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?? does it mean they will be as 5 again? I don’t really understand… :S
I don’t think so.
It says, “maybe they will finally answer the fans wish whom had expected a reunion.” keyword here is “maybe.” In other words, they don’t actually KNOW anything.
Hey, it’s a tabloid, they want to sell it. Why not write things like this in order to make gullible people buy into it.
urgh, I see what you mean.. but then will it lead people to the wrong facts? :S
Probably. Unfortunately. :\
But then maybe not. Tabloids are known for reporting false or distorted information. Hopefully there will be more people who realize that, instead of actually buying into what the article is saying.
Yes. And it is infuriating because this article puts the pressure on JYJ not to mention the lack of common sense. JYJ’s safety and freedom come before the whims of childish fans. I can’t understand how this is a controversy but SME’s atrocious treatment of their talents isn’t.
“The one who aimed for an early settlement, but it continued to trial and being restricted from doing their activities in both South Korea and Japan, it should be JYJ” …..Ummm no….SME has been the only one asking for an arbitration and they have been systematically denied each time.
“When you don’t stand a chance in the court settlement, both of the parties will go for arbitration and discuss. At that time, if they could come to an agreement, there will be a settlement. This time, we could say that “towards a reunion” means both parties could compromise. I think it also a monetary solution strategy.”
What? Doesn’t stand a chance? What ganja is this fool smoking? What an idiot. If this is a real lawyer then I’ll be weeping for the justice system of South Korea. This article was definitely pulled out of a lazy writer’s ass as a last second submission so he wouldn’t get fired from a last tier tabloid.
All this time I was always hoping they would be five again… but after reading this article (even though it is nonsense) I just realized that I actually don’t want them to reunite gain… When I read it my mind was like: Nooooo!!
I guess with time, TVXQ2 and JYJ have become so different in music, style and personality, that it doesn’t seem right to reunite.. I would like it if JYJ and Homin maybe did some collabs, and sang their old songs together.. but not reunite!! I mean even though I’m a cassie, I am JYJ biased, but that doesn’t mean I hate Homin since we never heard their side of the story and it’s not fair to hate them for staying behind… But I don’t know… If the boys themselves want to reunite, then I would be more than loving to see their comeback.. But I would definitely NOT want to force them into pretending to be happy together just for the sake of the fans..
“But I would definitely NOT want to force them into pretending to be happy together just for the sake of the fans.”
Thank you for saying that. I wish more people felt this way. They are now JYJ, and people need to respect, accept, and support that.
I agree with you Cassie. Their music is sooooo much different! I realy love JYJ songs and especially Xiah Junsu first solo album & not to mention his MV…. soooooo kool!!! Yes we not biased but I prefer JYJ more as 3 not 5. As JYJ, they are more advance & profesional in their music, acting etc. Yes I also want them to be together but not as 5 like old days. I guess, SM envy JYJ coz they already ‘travel’ almost all places in this wide world and people LOVE JYJ coz they just JYJ….. pure and honest boys who love to sing, dance & acting!! Whatever the Korean or Japanese Court said or conclude, we hope the best for all 5 of them and hoping them to be happy. If you all can see in their (JYJ) eyes, they are moving on…. but not Homin! SM indirectly down grade them??!!! Correct me if I’m wrong. They smile and laugh but in their eyes….. sad, not happy! Anyway, as a fan I’m hoping them all the best coz I …… we all still want to see more of them! To SM take a break, enough is enough let them enjoy what they best doing coz they young and there’s many more years for them to go thru…… JYJ fighting!!
Hi Cassie and all
I have been a very quiet fan of JYJ and nervous about this 1st time ever comment…^^
What u said was my sentiments too. For weeks, I have harboring the hopes that they should remain as JYJ and be independent on their own..
Look at them, what they have achieved in these past 2years despite the conditions set upon them…They have accomplished bigger feats than they were being TVXQ.
It’s even more commendable when they have perserved and succeeded under the most disheartening and suppressed moments…
I like TVXQ and know the boys are close… But I love JYJ… It is their strength that I admire, their perseverance and them growing from boyhood into true, very talented artists…
However, as a fan, we will always support them in whatever decisions they make… I just hope they don’t back down and continue to stand up for themselves.
Agree. I want them to reunite but if they’re not happy about it I don’t want them to do it. Simple as that.
TV2XQ, JYJ (especially TV5XQ)’s music has always been my favorite so I won’t have any problem if they reunite. If they don’t, I’m happy as long as they’re happy. I just wish this whole lawsuit will be over.
Whatever decision they make in the future or now..I’m gonna respect it and keep supporting them as five.. there are much bigger issues in the world..(this comment is only for fans who are upset at the thought of them becoming a group again) for fans to be upset over besides TVXQ/JYJ communicating again..or singing songs together. I think as fans.. we shouldn’t state with conviction whether or not they will be happy together..because we don’t know their relationship (of course they have been separated for three years and feelings change and they still have all those issues to work out).
Anyways, if they really haven’t spoken or met each other in over three years..them meeting for the first time in a meeting would probably be the most awkward thing in the world (and this is just one of the many things in the article..I feel that just doesn’t make any sense). In my own opinion if they were to get back together..there will be another crisis within the fandoms and JYJ/TVXQ would have to experience more heartache..
I can just imagine all the nasty comments, fanwars, boycotting, and fan websites threatening to pull support for the members like so many did before..somehow I think Japanese fans would be more supportive of their decision to come back together than international, or Korean fans…I only say this because it seems that the majority of Japanese fans support them whole-heartedly and it appears their selfless with their support..and they don’t expect certain things out of them (but this is just my perspective..I could be wrong)
It’s like so many fans vent their issues with TVXQ/JYJ members..and I almost want to tell them..that you don’t really know these men…and your walking around angry at people you don’t know..for what…its not like any of the members have done some horrific crime..to warrant that kind of hate. I also think that some fans act like the members they dislike or have issues with don’t deserve forgiveness or what they did can never be forgiven..as if they don’t make mistakes themselves and lead squeaky clean lives.
Additionally, I think that them getting back together as five if possible..won’t be a easy task (obviously) the main singers now in TVXQ are Changmin and Yunho..if JYJ comes back most definitely Junsu and Jaejoong will become the main singers again..there will probably be some conflict there..but I think Jaejoong would probably step back in order for things to be fair..I think out of all of them he would try the hardest to make things work out..or at least try to repair a friendship if Yunho and Max are willing.
@Daisy
“there are much bigger issues in the world..(this comment is only for fans who are upset at the thought of them becoming a group again) for fans to be upset over besides TVXQ/JYJ communicating again..or singing songs together. I think as fans.. we shouldn’t state with conviction whether or not they will be happy together..because we don’t know their relationship”
This could could also be said for people who are upset that they are not together now. After all this time, why assume that they are unhappy now and want to get back together? One can’t say that with conviction either. Rather than supporting JYJ for what they want them to be, people should support them as they are. And as they are, they have expressed many times that they are happy and thankful ^^
Well, there are a few points that you mentioned that I agree with, but some that I don’t.
First of all, the Japanese fans comment… wrong. Many Japanese fans want them as five and still really only recognize the DB5K name (or Jaejoong lol). I remember hearing that even as recent as the TONE album (not sure about their more recent ones, if they had any, since I am not really following DB2K anymore), a few Japanese fans still bought it, thinking it was a five-album.
Getting them back as five is not possible in my books. You mentioned the lead singer situation… I seriously doubt that’ll be the biggest issue facing them. And your choice of wording:”If JYJ comes back”, not going to happen. Only way I ever even see the slightest nanometer of chance of a reunion (get an idea of how small I think this is?) is if Homin leaves SMe… which is never going to happen either. And again, there is the reliance on Jaejoong to do most of the work/sacrifice. Funny, how you think he would put in all that effort for the reunion and Homin just needs to be willing to let him… how about Homin do some of the work around here too?
agree .. i mean jae took him a one day flight during his off utilizing that day just to meet the 2dbsk despite he should be resting that day but was failed ince sthe two refused to meet him . . i think now its time for homin to reach out for the 3jyjers since they didnt even do a single move to see their old good members they used to be called brothers . definitely the 2dbsk should initiate this time
take the information with a grain of salt.
@ellyellyelephant
“This could could also be said for people who are upset that they are not together now. After all this time, why assume that they are unhappy now and want to get back together? One can’t say that with conviction either. Rather than supporting JYJ for what they want them to be, people should support them as they are. And as they are, they have expressed many times that they are happy and thankful ^^\”
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People can be happy in their lives..but still have some emotional connections that make them feel sad or upset…just from dealing with obstacles in life…or problems at work or in your relationships ect. In my own opinion, I think JYJ and TVXQ are still burdened by the breakup and it probably still hurts a little…lots of things need to be cleared up….between the two groups.
“Rather than supporting JYJ for what they want them to be, people should support them as they are”-ellyellyelephant
I made a comment similar to yours..in my first comments about the article..I mentioned selfless fans…not expecting anything from the members..being selfless supporters…what I should have included is that besides Japanese fans there are probably a lot of international and Korean fans..who will selflessly support them too.
bullcrap.
LOL what non sense is this? Isnt that arbitration was requested by SM?! and the lawsuit has always been between JYJ n SM, do Yunho and Changmin have anything to do with it? =))) Japanese tabloid is forever clueless I see
@Jaime
July 26, 2012
“Well, there are a few points that you mentioned that I agree with, but some that I don’t.
First of all, the Japanese fans comment… wrong. Many Japanese fans want them as five and still really only recognize the DB5K name (or Jaejoong lol). I remember hearing that even as recent as the TONE album (not sure about their more recent ones, if they had any, since I am not really following DB2K anymore), a few Japanese fans still bought it, thinking it was a five-album.
Getting them back as five is not possible in my books. You mentioned the lead singer situation… I seriously doubt that’ll be the biggest issue facing them. And your choice of wording:”If JYJ comes back”, not going to happen. Only way I ever even see the slightest nanometer of chance of a reunion (get an idea of how small I think this is?) is if Homin leaves SMe… which is never going to happen either. And again, there is the reliance on Jaejoong to do most of the work/sacrifice. Funny, how you think he would put in all that effort for the reunion and Homin just needs to be willing to let him… how about Homin do some of the work around here too?”
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TVXQ has not had any other albums besides their Keep Your Head Down and Tone albums..they have been putting out Japanese singles Still, Android and Blink…I think the “Japanese fans don’t know TVXQ isn’t a five membered group anymore is a myth” because they have access to the internet…and I’m sure they found out on the internet..that the group had broke up.I just don’t see how they don’t know this information…there are forums, websites, fan related websites, word of mouth that would have broke the news for them.
The Tone album was heavily promoted with two membered pictures on the outside and inside of trains, TVXQ images on food related items, promotional buses with their jacket images..playing their singles, a temporary showcase of Tone photoshoot outfits, appearances, along with 15x9m mega poster that lit up in Shinjuku…plus their album covers were super colorful…..if Japanese fans didn’t know by now…there were only two members…than they must not have access to television, internet, nor newspaper, and don’t go outside…
When I mentioned “if JYJ comes back” there was no underlying meaning to it..I didn’t mean JYJ should go back to TVXQ or be in SM…it was just how I wrote it…writing it that way was just natural…there were no underlying meaning rather than if these former members chose to sing together again…I only mentioned one situation as just one of the examples of a conflict..that more than likely would occur if they were to sing together as a group…there would probably be many things like you said that would need to be worked out…their relationships foremost…choreography, style, music, ect…
When I mentioned Jaejoong trying the hardest out of the members..to make the group work or a collaboration work..(of course I don’t know Jaejoong but he has shown from my perspective how committed he is to his group members)…and I believe he would use that same positive energy and committment towards any possibilty of his former members and JYJ working on a project…just like he has poured himself into writing songs for JYJ’s albums, contributing to Junsu’s album, and directing some of their concert tours.
Jaejoong has always been the most vocal about the TVXQ/JYJ situation than any other member and I believe he would take on the leadership role if they worked on a project together….Furthermore, I never said that Yunho and Max shouldn’t make a effort to repair their friendships and musical relationships with their former members…but as in any case they would have to be willing to….JYJ has been open but TVXQ have been quiet..so that is what I meant by that…Yunho and Max have to open themselves again and be willing to confront all those emotions again and repair their friendships..
Even though there are Japanese fans who want them back as a five membered group…the majority of Japanese fans still support the projects of both JYJ and TVXQ….( last year the charts for HMV Japan showed both JYJ and TVXQ dominating the online music portal website with JYJ’s Music Essay taking the #1 spot, JYJ Memories in 2010 #2, Kaboom JYJ cover #8, Thanksgiving Live in the Dome JYJ #6, and TVXQ taking spots 1, 3, 4 , and 5 for Keep Your Head Down Special and Normal album editions.)
JYJ also topped Japanse HMV chart with their “In Heaven” album topping at 1, 3, and 8, along with the Protect the Boss OST #9 with TVXQ’s Tone taking spots 1, 4, and 5 ( the rankings are daily so they go up and down), not to mention all the other TVXQ/JYJ related merchandise that quickly sells out in Japan…including merchandise that a member has worn and individual projects selling out such as Yoochun’s SungKyunkwan Scandal and Protect the Boss DVD’s and OST…and flying from Japan to their Korean fanmeetings..and selling out JYJ’s Unforgettable Live Concert in Japan 2011 where fans braved the earthquake damaged area along with slight rain to attend the concert. Japanese fans also heavily supported TVXQ’s Tone tour as well.
Actually, I don think they can still be together as 5 since they already belong to two different companies. I just hope that jyj will have the chance to appear in Korea tv broadcast, perform in variety shows, win all the Korea music awards.
me too..Really wish to see them in variety show..
I want to see them on Running Men asap.
yesss that is my dream, too!
Why Running Men? ^^ I’m just curious ^^
running man is one of k-variety show that viewed by many people around the world.
so if JYJ be the guest on the show, at least people who doesn’t listen to or know about k-pop know who JYJ is
@astrid
Thank you for explaining ^^ I watched it only once, that’s why I don’t know that much about it and I didn’t know that ppl all over the world can watch it. ^^
@makiforjyj
it’s very entertaining show
you should watch it dear
Running Man popularity is undeniable, so it’ll be very good opportunity for JYJ if got invited to be the guest on the show to get known by lot of people #although our boys are already known by lot of people by their music and drama
really I dont understand this article and I dont like their mind too I dont wanna ” reunion” and I hope JYJ will be free soon thanks
Hi Admin, you mean JYJ actual will were twisted & distorted by this Tabloid in Japan ? How’s the influence power of this media?
“When you don’t stand a chance in the court settlement, both of the parties will go for arbitration and discuss.”
“Even if JYJ received strict conditions, it seems that they’ve decided that “We want to settle this time.”
I at a bit of loss for words because it didn’t appear to me that JYJ had a choice in rejecting arbitration. They may have rejected settlement in previous NEGOTIATION attempts but I thought the court made the decision to accept SM’s request to send it to arbitration, not JYJ.
I thought that the court granted SME’s arbitration request but that it was up to JYJ’s lawyers whether to accept or not. The final hearing was supposed to be on July 19th so if the judge decided arbitration was the only solution then they wouldn’t need SME to request it in the first place. If both parties don’t agree then the court will settle it and if that were the case then this would be over with by now…..right? Arbitration is pretty much the same thing as negotiation.
OMG!!! no wonder many BigEast still believe that Avex will be the ‘saviour’ to bring THSK back together as 5 again… so many info are spreading inaccurately… gosh.. and this posted on Yahoo Japan?
Hmmm perhaps they should be led to this side ^^ I will do that when I’m in Japan, distributing JYJ3-flyers ^^ lol, just kidding….but seriously, they should read the info’s here ^^
What’s with all this nonsense?! They sued their company and yet your expecting for the reunion? And in fact I agree with @Ngoc Ha, Homin has nothing to do with this…
I agree. They were quick to leave their “brothers” in the dust and cleaned their hands of any involvement so why would they be there for a settlement?
and this is another reason why homin fans should open their eyes,,actually the one who always involved Homin in this situation is those media and SM themself, can you see that just like those blog who said they are the truth..they even always use homin as a tool to compare JYJ and Homin situation for SM sake, SO i never understand the point homin fans Hate JYJ bcs they said JYJ is the one who always involed homin here LOL seriously, reunion plz No.
It’s a tabloid, don’t mind it.
Hopefully the settlement will be on JYJ’s side. I love TVXQ5.. but really think JYJ is at their best now. They are more involved in production, composing, acting, musicals, directing etc.. and they manage their own schedules!!. They are growing as human beings and not like puppets!! Furthermore, JYJ ARE THE ONES who opened the doors to other kpop bands!!!.
I wonder if every Japanese JYJ fan think the same as the tabloid does?
I’d like to think their Japanese fans will do some research before believing biased crap from tabloids, just like us ^_^
that’s why JYJ FANS are the BEST of the BEST.
We just need to keep supporting our guys under any circumstances, they are the victims here. Despite of showing us their strength we all know they are still vulnerable. So please don’t believe what tabloids say and help to spread the word ^_^
THIS!!
This makes me laugh, a lot. People who have no clue what’s going on making predictions and attributing themselves with some insight to the whole case.
Ok I’ll try it too. Let me get out my crystal ball. Hrmm…I see them going into arbitration, oh SM kidnaps them! And puts them in glass cages! But Junsu has his secret weapon, the rare G6 note, and shatters their prison and JJ calls his friend Pegasus (cause JJ knows everybody!) and they fly off into the sunset. Then they return to the arbitration with an army of Chunnie’s noona and ajhumma fans armed with frying pans. They make a mountain of food and force feed SM until they are trapped in their own bodies, too fat to move and JYJ roll them into court to let the judge know the meeting didn’t go so well.
Yup, that’s what’s going to happen.
ROFLMAO!!!
้Hahahahhaha I so love your comment here… just like I love reading your fics…
Mmmmmh … Your prediction seems accurate to me … more than this outrageous news on a crappy tabloid, anyway. I can picture JYJ’s Frying Pan Army at work….
Would you read my hand, my great clairvoyant? m(_ _)m
I’ll believe in everything you’ll foretell!
Yes, I can see now that my frying pan glistening under the sun…. have to buy more just in case this thing happen.
Yup, I’ll be one of the ajhumma army.
JJ calls his friend Pegasus (cause JJ knows everybody!)
LOL LOL aaaand LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! My mom is looking at me like I’m crazy.
ROTFLMAO! I like your crystal ball.
Also ROFLMAO!!!! ^^ You write fics, Neon mentioned…. could you please tell me the link ^^
KKAKAKAKAKA ^_________^
LOL so freakin loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are hilarious and I love every word of what you said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You made me spill coffee on my laptop!! This is just so funny…hahaha…Ah, now, my imagination is working overtime, I could practically see that scenario really happening…..
Hahahha!! I love your awesome prediction!
ROFL…….. your comment really makes me laughing so hard
I honestly doubt that this will happen for the time being. I think reunion is not an option for either side.
Utter Nonsense to the Max!!!
Falsely testify your neighbor already a sin,
gives false hope to others shall double your offense.
This rumor needs to be managed, b4 it manages you.
False hopes….I don’t know. Just how many times does one have to be fooled? I did sympathize with Japanese fans that didn’t know any better but after all this time I can I safely say I don’t anymore. The ones who still believe any trash they read are playing into manipulation and that is their fault. Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me.
after all the things that sm has done, i don’t want them back in sm…. sm really disgusts me (and ‘disgust’ is an understatement)
also, people you should read this, it’s really interesting : http://hellothrice.tumblr.com/post/27512595674/arbitration-for-jyj-sm-clearing-up-rumors
thank you so much for that link!
Who the hell want them to be 5 again? oh i forgot. everyone except me. if they r 5 again, it only means jyj coming under sm? heck no. after what they’ve achieved – freedom for their life and music. This tabloid is making my blood boil.
Unfortunatelly, it looks like there are literary ZERO news about JYJ in japanese mainstreem media. That means that similar articles ( inconspicuously painting JYJ in bad light) that surface from time to time in Japan, stretch and distort the truth about the real situation of JYJ vs SM(Avex). They doesn´t lie from the get go, it rather uses a few selected true facts, mix it with lies and own interpretation and the result is a desaster for JYJ. The longer it will continue, the harder it will be for them to reverse the negative general opinion once they will start their full activities in Japan again. And the worst for me is, I really don ´t know if this happens with some help of Avex, or if it is an iniciative of solely a few uinscrupulous journalists in those tabloids, wanting some sensations that would sell.
I heard this story about being back together as five from other people (It’s just a rumor though) And then this news came…My first thought is that Oh! here we go again lol. 5 of them are back together???????? COME ON…..it’s not going to happen in any time soon. I have to admit that I used to wish for them to be back together and maybe I still believe the one day it will happen. But I’m so freaking happy with the current JYJ. So, I think it’s best this way………We can see the other side of JYJ that we never ever seen before and we don’t have to worried about their tight schedule anymore.
So, TABLOID is still TABLOID…Don’t believe everything written in there.
lol tabloid, way to make some cash heh
I loled throughout this “article”. So many misguided facts and rumors. I guess that’s why it is a tabloid.
Should I be happy that something of this magnitude in wrongness predicted a 5 reunion? I mean that only means the chance of it happening in real life is like zero right?
“When you don’t stand a chance in the court settlement, both of the parties will go for arbitration and discuss.”
DA HELL…From what I see… JYJ was 100% ready to win on the 19th.
Josei Jishin…Congrats on another stupid article.
“Even if JYJ received strict conditions, it seems that they’ve decided that “We want to settle this time.” —
Is it just me…but does the article make it seem like it’s JYJ who wants the arbitration…not SM? (I find this ridiculous)
if any of you still confuse with this law suit, please check this video
Wow…….Speculation after speculation in both this article and the last one. Not much based on fact-interesting wording to keep fans coming back for more?
Ok. I would love to see DB5K again together, really
(even if I don’t want to loose JYJ & TV2Q…)
BUT, that’s … CRAPS
In my opinion, they’re just using our deep feelings to sell their dirty paper.
So sad.
For me this sound like the author is writing about something he or she has no clue about whats going on… just gossiping… for example regarding the arbitrations, for us it’s clear that this is SM’s tactic, we know it… just like in the JYJ3 Note mentioned: “Tabloids aren’t a reliable source”.
Somebody got their palms properly greased! They manage to convey to readers that it’s JYJ who sought for arbitration for fear of losing. What BULL!
Zero chance of that happening! Our JYJ boys have come too far to end right smack back where they started from. Total nonsense!
crap… and to think that you’re a lawyer.
it seems to me that you’re on SoMeone’s payroll.
Who is this attorney?
And has he been living under a rock for the past 3 years?
This man does not seem to have even a basic understanding of what the core issues are in the Lawsuit!
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP so take as a Grain of #########################!!!!!!!!!!Clueless As usual & Union My @############################## SM F######## U along with every1 who still support u & been F#### Clueless abt all this!!! I Just Want Justice to be served ASAP, ,,, Cuz gosh i’m Going insane over this Nonesense so u can IMAGINE HOW JJ.YC.JS feel ……………………. S***!!!
?? excuse me?
yepp, I always feel that unresponsible people make use of fans but so sad when it drag JYJ into negative image
hope to be strong, JYJ fighting !!!
Dafug? There’s so much craps in this article that I don’t know where to begin. All the information is wrong and misguided. Do the writer and that attorney even have a clue about what is going on with the lawsuit between JYJ and SME? When both sides go into arbitration, it’s the lawyers’ jobs to represent them and negotiate any settlement. TV2XQ have never been involved in this case, why would they suddenly come to the settlement table with JYJ? What makes Homin eligible to negotiate here? This article doesn’t give a shit about JYJ’s advantages or disadvantages should they win or lose the lawsuit. It doesn’t mention or elaborate on the causes and reasons that JYJ sued SME, which is very important because many Japanese fans don’t seem to be well-informed about that. All it appealed to is the possibility of reunion of Tohoshinki as 5 as per the wish of some fans. Are you f*cking kidding me? And Mr. Lawyer, who doesn’t stand a chance in court ruling? Certainly not JYJ. Aren’t you a Korean? Why do you sound like you don’t even know the laws of your own country? JYJ do not wish to compromise, they expect a win in court. But what can they do when in Korea, judges can grant arbitration without the need for consent from both parties (based on what I read)? Which is what the judge did to SME’s request for arbitration on July 11. It’s SME who has kept trying to delay the announcement of the final verdict to harm JYJ. Please get your facts straight. “Tohoshinki and JYJ do not want to prolong the controversy as they don’t want to ruin their image.” As far as I know, TV2XQ don’t care about this lawsuit and are happily promoting. It doesn’t occur to me that the case has ever ruined their image since they’re seen by some as the “heroes” who are loyal to their company and keep the name alive, no? *sarcasm* It’s only JYJ who face difficulties when SME is dragging this case. We want the lawsuit to be concluded just so JYJ can gain their complete freedom and unrestrained activities in Korea and Japan, not for the sake of any reunion.
“It’s only JYJ who face difficulties when SME is dragging this case.”
Point this out, cause I’m 100% agree with you.
The settlement effort come from sm not JYJ, and not because they want to settle things out with JYJ, it’s just for the delay.
And it’s also my reason why I’m not supporting the reunited of DB5K. Where is Homin when JYJ facing all the difficulties in this past 3 years???
So reunited as 5, makes all their hardship seems worthless..
I just want them as 3 forever, JUST 3..
Honestly , i dont want JYJ must reunited again with HoMin. Im sorry…
Tabloids.., Sugar Coating the situation,wrong facts indeed….
i used to want them to reunite as 5 but after watching live performances of keep your head down…there’s one action that made me think otherwise…..so far i have only seen Changmin doing it so clearly.. ( the move…when they show 3 fingers then throws it away and switches it to 2 fingers) haven’t really seen yunho clearly showing the fingers ….maybe i’m thinking too much but i can’t seem to get it out of my head…
When all this first started, I wanted them to get back together. TVXQ without 5, just isn’t TVXQ. I now believe that JYJ has outgrown TVXQ. They have had a world tour. They’ve sold more CDs. Jaejoong and Yoochun are now actors and Junsu has been in musicals. Together or individually they have show how talented they are and their fans have hung on to them through it all. We love JYJ. We will continue to support JYJ. They are precious to us. There is not another group of guys who is love to the extent that JYJ is. They are exceptional artist and people. They show their love for their fans in ways that no other group has. JYJ no longer needs SME or TVXQ. They have their fans and their talent, and we (their fans) have them. The world is a happy place with them in it.
as much i want them as 5 again.. its impossible to be reunite even after the lawsuit ends… ive been in this lawsuit long drama since its started, in my view to many pain and hardship , rumors and distrust issues came … that made it impossible to be dbsk5 back again… , the tvxqduo is not into reunite as they stated before , probably JYJ as well cuz of to many painful words/events came. TIME WILL TELL…
well stick to jaejoongie statement that he wants to be happy with fans as JYJ.
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really a non sense articles……
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*sigh* tabloid huh…
“….tired of the trial -settlement(WHO?JYJ-SM OR JYJ-HOMIN???)-(& i totally WTFH this) “towards a reunion” means both parties could compromise.
then what??
if JYJvsSM lawsuit doesn’t goes well MEAN ”reunion’=> FAIL…
ohh im sure where ‘this Tabloid’ getting to… =.=#$@^%#$@%^$@^$^
we’ve got same thinking…
this article is just jumping an answer on a different issue, that is totally irrelevant to the lawsuit, just to cater the “fans” wants.
it might have work for those “fans” who are blinded of their wants, are now jumping with joy of the so called reconciliation of the group. Without even realizing the main point why did the 3 sue SM about the exclusive contact.
oh well, what more can we say… tabloid is a tabloid, if it could sell news irregardless if it is true, misleading, misinforming or make up stories, they’ll print it out anyway. It still boils down to the consumers if they wanted to be taken advantage of…. then one buys the tabloid or believe in it….
I WANT JYJ AND STOP!
NO REUNION! GO JYJ!
I WANT JUST JYJ NO THEIR 5!
5 WANT SAY RETURN TO SM! AND ME DON’T WANT THIS!
WANT THE JYJ!
My say on this.
They don’t need to be 5 again on stage. If they do, I’ll cry tears of joy but there’s no way that is gonna happen. I just need them to be friends again and be happy like they used to. And yes, frickin appear in Running Man!!!
.well… clam down of JYJ ‘s fans…^^…we don’t care reunion or not…we just support our boys …Jaejung , junsu , yunchun …not the name of JYJ or not …we are not support the group ‘s name…JYJ or TVXQ or whatever…we not support ….just we supported Jaejung ,junsu, yunchun…if jaejung ,junsun and yunchun ‘s group is JYJ…we will support JYJ…if the name of something..but it were jaejung ,junsu and yunchun…we will support …SME was already know that point …so they want to delay the count hearding ..coz all of fans are love not the group’s name ..just they are ..we love jae jung , junsu , yunchun…they know …that why they try to escape from SME..TV2XQ think fans are love only TVXQ…the name…they are wrong …so they choose their way..JYJ is already know fans are not only love the group ‘s name . Fans are love the that guys yunho , jaejung , junsu , yunchun and changmin ..SME was walked so long to that dirty trip ..and they only know the MONEY…they are looked down our boys..they through our boys can’t stand alone..can’t
success without their help..but they frond out..our boys was hardled how diffcult it.Nowadays , JYJ are success and tied schedule
and our boys can bulided own images..so many… not only music but also dramas for su..own solo album …every know how successful day of junsu “Tarantallerra”..and yunchun’s Top Roof Prince , Jae’s Dr.Jin…etc.they can made money alot!!.so..SME..they want to back their money..or can’t back..they want to made difficult saturation ..that why..they try delay or reunion..like that..so..i think all fo JYJ’s fans are already know about Dity SME..we don’t have to fall down tehir dirty trip..whatever JYJ’s decide..we have to respect..we will keep support our boys Jaejung , junsu and yunchun..we want they are happy coz their happiness is our happiness ^^ right!!!..so we keep pray our boys have to healthy and happy freedom ..i love Jae,chun and su..whoever they are..i always support them..i will be love that guys rest of my life..
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“we are not support the group ‘s name…JYJ or TVXQ or whatever…we not support ….just we supported Jaejung ,junsu, yunchun ”
Yes I agree with you, that’s why I really don’t buy that propaganda of protecting the name, the name doesn’t define the music, it’s the voices and the people behind that name. So even in the future JYJ decides to change it’s name to Justin Beiber, as long as the same voices, the same excellence of Jaejoong, Yoochun and Junsu are there, I’ll still follow them. Before when I heard TVXQ or Tohoshinki’s mentioned , my pulse rate increased because if I hear that name I can figure out Jaejoong with his 2 adorable brothers Junsu and Yoochun, but not anymore, it’s JYJ now which stands for 3 of the most amazing artists ever born.
LMAO, Justin Bieber…. just imagined a cover with that name….ROFL ^^
anyway, I think so too… the person is important (as all three) not the name ^^
and of course I’m not a JB fan, it’s just for emphasis, and I’m smiling myself thinking about the cover
I wish they can reunite since I been a cassie from the start but I am proud of JYJ and Homin, what ever they decide I will be happy about it.
let us be practical… reunion or no reunion let the 5 decide… but as for now, let’s focus on the main problem… the CONTRACT between JYJ and SM.
Let us not be misguided by this article… it’s not giving us answer with regards to the lawsuit rather pulling strings on our weakness – the reunion of the 5 members.
It’s a shame for us to have a wishful thinking for the reunion of the group when the main issue – slavery contract is not corrected.
What reunion? My ass ar!! ┌∩┐_ ಠ_ಠ _┌∩┐
*Sigh* No comment. Let’s just wait for the results.
Arbitration again?! WHY?! We all know the courts will ALWAYS try to avoid as much as possible… What is the point!! Slow! the court is procrastinating and there really isn’t anything anyone can do… this stinks! T^T
As much as I am torn between 5 and 3/2… I still think the boys know what they want the most and we should try to understand. As much as I love Changmin to Junsu baby and Yoochun… I can accept if they are apart… yet it may be better if they reunite again. GAAHH!!
after reading this article, the writer didn’t do his research right… it doesn’t make sense. for the fact that Yunho and Changmin aren’t part of the lawsuit. it’s between JYJ and SM not JYJ , against SM , Yunho & changmin. so why should they be in the “settlement” for the first place? They could be witnesses if they want to but they can’t help preside/influence the settlement between JYJ and SM.
If they want to show Yunho & Changmin can influence JYJ with their decision, they should have done that way back before privately not in a courtroom.
JYJ left, & sued the company not because they have problems with Yunho and Changmin but rather it’s the unfair contract that SM gave them.
Let’s face it. We’re not talking about the group relationship, it’s about JYJ who feels the contract between them & SM is a slave contract. So what’s the point of having group reconciliation when the main problem is not corrected?
This article give false hope and mislead those who don’t or don’t want to understand the situation.
I’m probably gonna get bashed for saying this but nevertheless…
I for one personally, do no want JYJ and HoMin to get back together. Not because I hate HoMin but I just think that DBSK is a done deal. They were legends in their time and they will be remembered as the great legends they were. Period.
The reason why I don’t want them to get back together is because I don’t believe they can create the same magic they had. They’ve been apart for almost 3 years now and in the meantime, each of them have grown – personally and musically (although I must admit JYJ more than HoMin; mostly due to the freedom they now enjoy). For them to reunite musically will be a challenge. The magic they had as a group was the result of a fantastic mix of formula – SM’s writers, producers, choreographers etc. If you are expecting the same magic, they will need to find the same formula again. Even if they do reunite under one agency, there’s still the issue of the production of materials. JYJ has been comfortable doing things on their own, eventhough they’ve never quite managed to match the standard of SM’s production. They would definitely feel the pinch of having to curb their creativity in the interest of harmonizing the group. On the other hand, there’s no guarantee that HoMin would like the musical direction of JYJ, should they be allowed to spearhead the creatives.
Besides, I hardly think SM would allow HoMin to freely collaborate with JYJ post trial. The only way is for HoMin to leave SM and join another neutral agency (not necessarily C-Jes) because as of now, there’s no way JYJ would be able to associate themselves with SM. So if you them back together, HoMin needs to leave SM. If not, the tussle over copyrights, distribution of earnings, expenses and all those crap will reoccur again and again. It’ll be a ticking time bomb.
I wish DBSK could emulate Big Bang – where each member could go in different directions individually, but maintained cohesiveness when they’re together. They’re equally strong individually and also as a group. DBSK is probably one of the greatest Asian phenomenon – way better than some of the giants of J-Pop and Canto Pop. The disbanding of DBSK is a tragedy on it’s own but I guess it may be a blessing in disguise for them. It is however up to them to figure out what the blessings are.
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You are very thoughtful response to this article, we the fans should go back to the core of the spirit of our idol “music”. Universal’s music that can bring together a wide range of conflicts, when JJ, YC, JS, CM, and YH love the sense of music would one day they will come back on good terms, though different groups, The important thing now is the completion of the legal case between JYJ vs SME / AVEX, and when it must go through the arbitration process may JYJ not be harmed.
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