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[NEWS] 120914 “Not Possible” in domestic, “Welcome” abroad – JYJ’s Paradox

September 14, 2012 · JYJ3 Team

“Not Possible” in domestic, “Welcome” abroad – JYJ’s Paradox 

[PIC: Idol Group JYJ – first Korean singer who had a concert in SanTiago, Chile on March 09. The group is exploring overseas markets since its activities in Korea have restrictions. From the Left: Jaejoong Kim, Yuchun Park and Junsu Kim. – Photo from C-JeS Entertainment]

The trio group JYJ (Jaejoong Kim, Yuchun Park, Junsu Kim) is unique. It is difficult to see the group in the country, but the group is doing remarkable activities abroad. The team toured in Spain, Germany, Chile and Peru and the member Junsu Kim had his solo concert in Mexico – all as the first Korean singers who ever had concerts in each country. Why is the atmosphere from inside and outside is so different? You may see an equation of Korean Pop industry’s power structure.

◆ Aftermath of TVXQ Controversy?

[Junsu Kim who had solo concert in Mexico on Sep 6]

The three members of JYJ had their debut in the year of 2004 as the quintet TVXQ under SM Entertainment. TVXQ shortly stood at the top in Korean pop industry and had 100,000 members in its fan-club. In 2009, the three members moved to the present agency and formed JYJ after ‘application for injunction to terminate the validity of exclusive contract’ against SM, claiming that 13-year of exclusive contract was too long. The lawsuit with SM is still ongoing.

After this, they have had difficulties in album distribution, venue rental, TV appearances and other things. With tremendous number of album sales and popularity, the public has not seen them in any of music/entertainment programmes for the last 3 years at all.

For example, Yuchun Park appeared in ‘SKK Scandal(KBS)’ and ‘Rooftop Prince(SBS)’ as a leading role, but no one could see his face in entertainment programmes of the both broadcasters despite the fact that actors appearing in the same broadcaster’s entertainment programmes during their drama is an unwritten rule in order to promote dramas. Even in some cases, his appearances were flip-flopped after scheduling.

First, broadcasting companies’ stance is that ‘we cannot cast the singer under legal dispute’. However, JYJ insists that ‘Independent activities are guaranteed until the ruling of the lawsuit on the merits’. Some say that this situation is because of external pressure.

“I was concerned a lot about the present situation that I can be on TV only through dramas. But I decided that it would be better to do something I can do the best, (knowing promotion would be difficult) released a solo album in May”, said Junsu Kim at the press conference in Mexico. His music video of the title song ‘Tarantallegra’ which cost him half a billion Won to make, has never once been aired.

JYJ looked overseas instead. The group betted on overseas stages with the fandom they established since TVXQ.

◆ Idol’s new market

The Group JYJ has done..

The atmosphere at Junsu Kim’s Solo Concert at Blackberry Auditorio in Mexico City, Mexico on Sep 6 was just boiling. The concert was the part of his North/South American tour followed from New York and Los Angeles. 3,000 fans were shouting his name and ‘I Love You, Junsu!’ in Korean and sung ‘Besame Mucho(Kiss me much)’ together. Fans were all sung along his latest Korean lyrics such as ‘Set Me Free’. Junsu Kim is due to continue European Tour in the second-half of this year. JYJ also toured in 15 cities from the last year to the first-half of this year and met 210,000 fans around the world.

Paradoxically speaking, the restriction in Korea domestic has become the other way into the new steps. The agency says South American tours are deficit as they are too far from Korea, but it explains that “In the manner of investment, we are trying to go anywhere as long as fans are there”.

“JYJ’s case is a condensable example of the fact that the practical power belongs to management companies, the capital itself under this idol producing system, although the popularity is earned by an idol member”, Jakga Kim, the pop-music critic commented. He continued, “JYJ showed the possibility that an idol group CAN survive by themselves, not depend on the cartel which acts on collusion with management companies and broadcasting companies”.

Source: http://joongang.joinsmsn.com/article/aid/2012/09/14/8943944.html?cloc=olink|article|default
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  1. loveunchanged
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Some of the information are wrong. The fanclub number reached 800,000 not 100,000.

    • loveunchanged
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      Wait! Maybe I am wrong. It’s 80,000 not 800,000? lol

      • aceopeia
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        no, you’re right 800.000 ^^

      • Lolitea
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        it’s 800.000 you’re right! ;)

      • Lily
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        Hahahaha love your comment Lol

    • yuchunrocksmylife
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      Maybe they actually wanna say its almost 1mill..hehe ^^ of course JYJ rocks! Eat that SM! our boys still shines without u~ *proud*

    • ruber
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      Actually, we don´t know the real number of Cassiopeia-members who paid their membership to SM during DB5K days, do we? I mean the number 800.000 was the number of fancafe-members (I think it is called Yaerubi).

      • 楊珊珊 ♪ (@sanri_su)
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        No, the official registered number was 800,000.

  2. diana dee (@_dee2)
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Amazing,Superb,Great,Unbelievable!!!
    It is what people say as ‘effort’…

    I’m so proud to be JYJ’s fans ^_____________^

    • 2012jyjchun
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      Yes! Proud ~~~

  3. Lily
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    They forgot to mention all the organizations they represent and the fact that they write most of their music.
    And as in the end the journalist says “JYJ showed the possibility that an idol group CAN survive by themselves, not depend on the cartel which acts on collusion with management companies and broadcasting companies”. Though this is true, you need to have JYJ’s talent and determination to do it.

    For a Korean newspaper I think is pretty good!

  4. trulymike
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Good one n positive comments..show the world that u’ll survive n penetrate the international market…..

  5. dbskanne
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Beep… DBSK had the biggest fan club (800,000) in The Guinness World Record Book 2008.

    Kudos to the critic’s confession on cartel’s connivance with broadcasting stations.

  6. dolphinxiah
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    “JYJ showed the possibility that an idol group CAN survive by themselves, not depend on the cartel which acts on collusion with management companies and broadcasting companies”

    They should add a very crucial factor for survival, which is TALENT. That differs JYJ to idols who chose safehouse rather than fighting for their freedom and trying to survive out there.

    • X
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      If JYJ and XIA have brodcast we can see them for free. TV is important.

      talent is not enough.

      Promotion is how your talents are recognized and you get praised and awarded where due . People dont regognize talented if not through TV. Justine Biber anyone? He was on TV. His career didnt come from youtube. Youtube is like audition, only after TV did he get into the industry where it counts and secures his position despite the large army of haters. ” there are a lot of antis on JB” TV keeps him on around and career secure. The majority of people are not deep thinkers they take everything from TV and as jb grows there are new teenage generations every year coming to know him because of TV keeping him freshly known, keeping him On keeping his music ON CAUSE TV is ON because TV is free communication free promotion and its offecial recognition no matter how much some fans try belittle TV . If JYJ Cant get on TV they’d be no different than some really talented singer STRANDED in a bar somewhere with fans within the bar and who come into the bar only cause he cant expand due to restrictions. Not getting that status he deserveres for being excellent he will never get credit for his talent where is due cause poeple RECOGNIZE TV stars only. Sorry people are like that they want to feel your real and your real if your inside the industry even when your not the real thing the industry will make you real. Next thing you know your on NBC become an icon because a simple horse dance TV HYPNOTIZE PEOPLE IT WHAT MAKES PEOPLE CLICK. While a real talent out there never gets known ever. JYJ and XIA need TV to get credit where due to keep on and around. Suju is around SNSD 2VXQ ect are around and on so many media around them like byonce has media like jb like pink like ect all singers have TV but not JYJ should we let this artckle make us forget about JYJ and XIA on TV. THATS IT? your favorite bar singer is doing fine where he is hot and great voice when ever we want to enjoy them lets go to the bar and have fun his place isnt outside the bar and on the big screen maybe doesnt deserve the big screen. M Jackson rhs is a real talent he deserved to show on the big screen, on TV what about JYJ and XIA? horse dance is more talented more deserving? who educated
      media about JYJ case. Can we figure out a solution? I keep requesting fans to try send letters to CNN to cast light on the bullying this ban from brodcast the boys suffer JYJ DESERVE TV BRODCAST FANS WANT THEM ON TV AGAIN. is e-mail so difficult.

      • makiforjyj
        September 19, 2012 Reply

        *nodding* I really like your post.
        best part: “The majority of people are not deep thinkers”… I laughed really very much ^^
        JYJ are lucky that they had already a huge fanbase and success when they left SM, that’s why they can keep going…

  7. @murasaki 紫♥♥ IOnlyShipJaemuCouple♥♥
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Reblogged this on murasaki 紫.

    • shuheilove
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @murasaki

      Hello sweetie; hugs :D

      • @murasaki 紫♥♥ IOnlyShipJaemuCouple♥♥
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        Muacks!!

  8. shuheilove
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Some of the info is wrong and some is missing…. JYJ WT in Vancouver; JYJ WT in Barcelona; JYJ WT in Berlin; XIA 1st WT in Asia; JJ fanmeeting in Turkey; Yoochun recently fanmeetings, etc. etc. Ok, at the end what matters is this: SME made JYJ go international; worldwide!!! Thanks to their nonsensical blockings and pressures, JYJ is conquering the whole world. LA LA LA!!!! Thanks SME; although this was totally unexpected for you, you have done a great work PROMOTING JYJ WORLWIDE!!! LOSERS!!!! :D :D :D

    • eljay
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @shuheilove

      ‘”Thanks to their nonsensical blockings and pressures, JYJ is conquering the whole world. LA LA LA!!!! Thanks SME; although this was totally unexpected for you, you have done a great work PROMOTING JYJ WORLWIDE!!! LOSERS!!!! ”

      Ain’t that the TRUTH! :D

      • shuheilove
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        @eljay

        Dear, it’s been a long time but I’m happy to see you here.
        I think, thanks to the promotions they’ve done; SME isn’t going to receive a bag of coal in Christmas LOL I love sarcasm!!! ;)

        • eljay
          September 15, 2012

          @shuheilove

          Thank you, Dear, it’s good to be back. Life got very busy between changes happening in my personal life and work starting again with the start of a new school year. Hoping it settles into a livable pattern!

          I love sarcasm and I’ve always appreciated yours!

    • flower
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @Shuheilove I totally agree with everything you said!!!!! SM Bsing has only helped promote JYJ WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Total LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • shuheilove
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        @Flower

        Dear, I bet SoMEone is smashing his head on the wall right now ROFL!!!! ;)

        • flower
          September 14, 2012

          @shuheiove I hope so and I hope he knock himself out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • miaw
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @shuhei *hugs*
      long time not chat ^^
      that’s why no matter what SM and their cronies do to our boys now or later i more choose to observe and enjoy every our boys project. It’s true that if u see the situation that our boys have is a hard one and sometimes can makes us felt desperate but……if u can changes your view point of the matter, i am sure u gonna smiling all day. Instead focus to the negative one, it’s more valuable to see the positive one rite ? i already said it before though, i always believe that behind of all of those disaster that SM and their cronies done to our boys, there are always be a good thing for our boys.Just let’s wait and see ^^

      for my beloved JYJ sisters and brothers in here, if u don’t mind u can used my method for released your anger and any negative minds that come to your mind in this case,:if u felt desperate about our boys condition and angry to SM and their cronies then try to make a list for all things that they ever done to our boys then makes another list about our boys achievement that they already have till now,or anything happiness moment that happen to our boys till now. I am sure u are gonna be surprise and u can’t stop smiling because of that, :D :D :D

      • shuheilove
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        @Miaw

        Baby!!! Mua, mua, mua :333 It’s been ages and I’ve missed you a lot. Yes, of course, I agree. Even being victims of evilness, we can win and succeed. You have a great method to relieve anger and stress. Hugs sweetie, you’re always in my heart <3

        • miaw
          September 14, 2012

          @shuhei
          ^____^
          thank, u also always in my heart my dear sister also miss u so much too *hugs more tightly*

        • shuheilove
          September 14, 2012

          @Miaw

          Hugging you back; panda hug ;)

    • butterfliesarefree2
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @shuheilove

      My JYJ3 sister.

      “Ok, at the end what matters is this: SME made JYJ go international; worldwide!!! Thanks to their nonsensical blockings and pressures, JYJ is conquering the whole world. LA LA LA!!!! Thanks SME; although this was totally unexpected for you, you have done a great work PROMOTING JYJ WORLWIDE!!! LOSERS!!!”

      The Law of Unintended Consequences. Be careful what you ask for. ;-) How sweet it is!

      • shuheilove
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        @BAF

        My JYJ3 dear sister

        I’m sure you enjoyed our Junsu to the top ;)

        Lady Karma is doing a great job LOL

        • butterfliesarefree2
          September 14, 2012

          Hey now! You bet I did. Had to post my fanaccount on ODP. Yes, Lady Karma is looking out for all the guys.

        • shuheilove
          September 14, 2012

          @BAF

          OH! I’m not so sure what does ODP mean but I want to know where is it posted please; I want to read your experiences :)

        • butterfliesarefree2
          September 16, 2012

          @shuheilove

          Open Discussion Post…it’s on the one for the 8th. I sent it in, but it never got posted. So, like @eljay, I inserted it as a comment….hope you like it.

          http://jyj3.net/2012/09/08/120908-open-discussion-post/

      • shuheilove
        September 21, 2012 Reply

        @BAF

        Thanks a lot dear sis; I’m running to read :D

    • X
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @shuheilove
      Yet the american media doesnt know about the boys case no the american media knows about PSY horse dance i wonder if maby because PSY’s company contacted CNN and NBC to promote their cause while we JYJ fand who could also contact CNN arent promoting the boys blacklist case to help shed universal light on JYJ and XIA’s case the blacklist issue.

      maybe JYJ fans dont want to bother CNN BBC NBC about JYJ’s and XIA’s case maybe The fans want to allow big media cast light on SME JYP and other companies singers instead. Oh look PSY horse dance more important than JYJ ban from brodcast now thats news worthy of the news channels right . No one up to educate CNN and NBC on the boys case? just an e-mail away.

      fans can choose the title and direction they feel fit when they want to send CNN but some fans scatter in choice and direction because there is no leadership in the fandome so hope some fans go easy on them when they want to direct someone to a good choice.

      • Green Bean Creature Wearing A Pink Hat
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        PSY’s company did not contact CNN or NBC. The reason why PSY’s “horse dance” started getting noticed was because famous American celebrities started tweeting about how amazing Gangnam style is and how they wanted to personally learn the dance. After Scooter Braun (Justin Beiber’s manager) took interest in PSY and signed him to a large American label, Interscope Records. Scooter used his connection to get PSY onto many American TV shows such as Ellen, The Today Show, etc. PSY success is completely different than what you are thinking. His fans did not push him to international fame, his fans did not email CNN or NBC or whomever to write stories about him. It was completely natural.

        I think international JYJ fans have tried emailing overseas broadcasting companies however the main issue is that International fans are spread out EVERYWHERE. It is nearly impossible to connect all of the international fans due to language barriers, time zones, and etc. This is why it may seem as though International fans aren’t as “unified” or as “strong” as the Korean and Japanese fans who all share the same country, language, culture.

        • X
          September 15, 2012

          Oh im sorry SCOOTER promoted Psy

          and who ells promoted Psy?

          You are missing the point. JYJ and XIA are still not on brodcast THIS is the issue that needs to be tackled not how PSY got Noticed. Why fans keep debate on anything that has no SOLUTION to JYJ’s and XIA’s brodcast block.

          Junsu TRIED during his tour to bring up the block issue. Fans why dont you help him how many times did Junsi go ” because we are not allowed to brodcast our music i was worried about the result of Tarantallegra MV” HE cant say SME is preventing me from TV cause he will get SUED for mentioning any name. So he says it the best tactful way he can to make MEDIA SEE HE AND JYJ SUFFER INJUSTICE. this blacklist is murder of a singer if he cant have fair promotional Music TV brodcast.

      • aurora
        September 15, 2012 Reply

        @X
        i like how much you support JYJ. And feel upset what JYJ 3 guys doing the best , but not yet received the best attention . JYJ, as Asian, if too ” aggressive ” to spread their grievance overseas, would indeed cause themselves more “troubles “.

        You may already notice , even Junsu recent tour, the youngest one, have learned to “take it easy” whenever he was interviewed with the legal dispute with ex-company. Just minimize all these dispute and focus on their current and future attempts.

        Long time “Bitter and grumpy ” are not well accepted in Asia. Some ppl will feel very frustrated, unhappy and not stick to the fandom anymore.

        Through more communication, mild attitude and reasonable fighting their right, are more welcomed.

        If they decided not to emigrate, they have to live as Korean for the rest of their life, even when they are no longer artists in the future. Thus, be harmony with the society, is what they need most.
        Indeed, their 2009 case already a big bomb to Korea history. This seed already a big leap forward for
        the industry. One day , will thrive anyway.

        JYJ want to keep the issue more low key now, as Jaejoong said , ” if given another chance , they would have handled the case in a refined & better way. ” Thus , let’s respect their wishes.

        If they want fans help to write and protest in the west, they can simply ask up or tweet, but they didn’t.
        Possibly, they do not want to go high profile as the ” Jasmine ” in North Africa, or fighting democracy like Aung San Suu Kyi. Not too far from now, they will be enlisted to boot camp for 2 yrs, for the sake of harmony, they need to stay with the country, not the vice versa.

        • X
          September 15, 2012

          Excuse me

          this year Junsu has talked so much about ” not being allowed TV brodcast his MV” ON his asian tour press conference.

          Junsu wants the media to notice he and JYJ are being blocked and talk about it why Junsu keeps brining the block issue this year? He doesnt want to talk about the block? let me understand, if Junsu wants Media to forget he and JYJ are banned locally why he goes saying more than once on his press confrence ” because we are not allowed brodcast” hemust be super dumb then cause thatshow you gett media attention to notice your case and the opression you suffer from. He is asking for help in a way he wont be sued and get real Junsu wont ask fans tell media JYJ and i am blocked. Sorry dear fello fan and fans STAYING QUIET ABOUT JYJ and XIA’s block case is exactly what SME wants. So no one tries to tackle this music industry opressive method placed on XIA and JYJ. if Junsu told ” because we are blocked” to press then why us fans dont follow suite. Tell the press too JYJ and XIA is blockeddont let SK ignore JYJ and XIA sinning career i have my point of you and you have yours . I am sorry we dont see eye to eye maybe your right or wrong maybe i am right or wrong but i want to talk to media about XIA and JYJ opression in music industry in south korea i want media to shed light on their case. Three years pass JYJ and XIA still have no TV brodcast. Should we say bye bye to music brodcast on TV forever to XIA and JYJ. lets buy SME products for succeeding to have media boycutting
          JYJ and Junsu forever. What right do XIA and JYJ have to show their face on local TV music shows? What they are singers too? but isnt this the case isnt it because XIA and JYJ are singers they have right to show their faces on music shows like MNET KBS MUSICBANK ect this is what people in SK need to admit and accept not dissmiss and accept the ban placed on JYJ and XIA. HOW does anyone solve a problem if the problem is not talked about. If your talking about fans manner in speech to how to tackle the issue and point out the real points that need be clarified then lets regroup and post opinions if this letter isnt deplomatic enough or if concentrate on something not the main point. The brodcast is the main point the lifting of this ban is what is desired. When fans want express to SK this desire of wanting to see JYJ and XIA needs to be highlighted more than hatered towards SME. we need to focus on the ban and our desire we still dont know how to make a most deplomatic letter that is not weak in elaborating focus on main issue but we can try find the right words for proper impact instead of forcing those who recieve the letters to neglect because of bashing content and hostility. We need deplomacy but at the same time not cowardnice to voice facts and use impact vocabulary to clarify the case. We need find the right balance in words if we want letters read till the end. Bashing cause bitterness and ears closed but not genuine powerful point making and
          facts. Just like lawyers do try convince the judge. fans should try convince the SK ministry of culture while corner them through CNN to act.

        • aurora
          September 15, 2012

          @X
          Jusus has mentioned , but the proportion almost 99:1 , more on JYJ & his new attempts, and
          And pls be sure even some petition had been organized for JYJ benefit,
          no hot blood fans remained silent, dear.

          Every charts, polling, nomination , sales record are united action.
          Plus endless professional blogs, forums, even in China….
          ” Jobs” have been well done, all directed to the bulls eyes.
          Its about timing. When the right moment come,
          JYJ is doing better than previously imagine.

          Pls think about H.O.T, comparing JYJ, JYJ is ” relatively ” lucky.

          Let’s be patient. ( though , i sometimes very anxious as well ) :P

        • X
          September 15, 2012

          So why does Junsu still slip that information ” because we are not allowed brodcast ” despite translation the idea of ban being placed was reached to the press through Junsu’s own mouth are you going to tell Junsu not to do that and wait for fans timing it. Why so many fans not want to contact CNN to talk about the boys case? Everyone trying to discourage this method why? CNN useless? i am fed up. no point talking to the fandom. Do what you want i already going my way.

  9. cookiedough
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Oct-Dec 2010 = they came to Singapore for their showcase too! :D

  10. JYJ global listener
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    ***Quoted***
    The agency says South American tours are deficit as they are too far from Korea, but it explains that “In the manner of investment, we are trying to go anywhere as long as fans are there”.

    This is means on personal project, Junsu and company balance sheet once again negative T.T
    I have expressed so many times on this worst case B4 the tour. Now pls gives up Quick Fix Mindset No one cares your wallet is empty after a year or two. EMPTY…EMPTY…EMPTY….!!

    To Junsu : ” Plan something measurable in profit , and work your plan” *( my next opinion, DON’T consider euro zone, nor regions near war zones . I’ m not a Prophet , it is practical common sense )
    Your 2 hyungs, FM meetings….. sigh…WHEN can you start earn some larger easier money ?? how many 500,000 m flight mileage can you afford ? …pls consider yr mama, she is strong and affirmative.
    But for middle age lady, this is over her body can afford, dear.

    Perhaps the world is fool by the whole Korea , its hallyu concept : bright, young , happy, romantic , freedom—–ALL WRONG, WISHFUL THINKING . The country is in the hand of big corps + govt . Don’t tell me the cultural dept still in fond of JYJ.

    This cultural dept is “culture battle operator ” actually, “invading” in all walks of lives of other countries. Export everything luxe to the world . Japan already noticed this long ago, they made protest, because S. Korea subsidize too much to the hallyu products ( tv drama, concerts etc).

    Pardon me, i doubt if Korea agriculture and fishery association will thankful to you, when they know
    the new potential markets are as far as in Mexico or South America. Or Samsung, LG, Haiyudai…
    Think carefully, will these domestic exporters interested in the markets & support / sponsor you?

    PSY, is have many CF now, he is going to sell refrigerator of Samsung – the market -USA.
    ( ft Lee, Sheung Ki – his Kings 2 heart , beaten by Yoochun RTF , but the CF goes to him ) T_T
    With SM power, JYJ , guess will never able to get good CF. Oh , except FC Men, i saw Junsu’s blue soccer uniform, with a print of samsung….well not for Junsu, but for charity image, selling the product to Japan, how…ironic.

    These three 80s generation. Absolutely like Aung San Suu Kyi. She is free , at age 66.

    • shuheilove
      September 14, 2012 Reply

      @JYJ global listener:

      I’m SURE their pockets aren’t empty and won’t be; never. This is just the way to explain they’re not earning as much as they earn in Asia; they’re earning much less but nevertheless, to conquer the world is worthy of their efforts. To be a pioneer has its own advantages. Besides, they know they have fans everywhere, they’re just giving their love back to them :D

      • JYJ global listener
        September 14, 2012 Reply

        @shuheilove
        Hi, I like your kind positive thoughts :D
        And i hope JYJ’s coins bags getting fatter. At least think of their parents.
        ( Junsu’s mama joined all tour, I feel so bad for her, esp for her age)

        And in Asia, their income is too little really, even till 2012 (not counting in SM idols)
        ( also not counting unnamed by very high income 2nd ~ 3rd lines actors/ actress)

        here is the link:
        http://www.jaynestars.com/news/2012-forbes-china-celebrity-100-list-jay-chou-in-1-spot/

        If things go on like this, i strongly recommend JYJ change to sell cupcakes or hotdogs. Franchise to all fans. Must be giant worldwide biz :P

    • Jacky
      September 16, 2012 Reply

      I agree with you on this one, I know Junsu loves his concert tour but I am so worry about his profit because of his big expense, lighting, special effects, dancers, all the hotel and airline tickets… Whereas on the other side, fan meeting can be much more easier to gain profit because of less expense. I was kind of shock when I notice the ticket price for fan meeting and concert is pretty much the same. Junsu is the best singer to me, I really hope he deserve much better.

      • Jacky
        September 16, 2012 Reply

        Also one more thing, I know Junsu is having his fan meeting for his Japanese fan in Jeju Island at the end of this month, I hope his fan is paying for the airline ticket, not Junsu (like the way that did for their membership week and I heard that is also Junsu’s idea), I know he loves his fan but he should “save” some money too.

  11. jjeyelash
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    JYJ are 3 supermen,they are surviving well by themself because of us,we are living well because of them.Despite the unfairness,they got what they wanted,the FREEDOM to do what they want and when they want.

  12. JYJ global listener
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Another victim of SM : ex-leader of suju- Hang Geng , is able to perform at the country most important New Year Spring festival ! 1,300,000,000 audience ! Though he may not be able to re-enter S. Korea again, but , who cares ??? S. Korea population only 49,000,000 !

    Beijing + Shanghai population already exceed this number. Most famous Korean actresses go there and work so happy!!! they want to marry Chinese handsome guy ! ( Shanghai men , most women crave for, the men who respect women most, and automatically do all the housework with smile !!! They are mostly with master / DR. degree from Harvard too, not
    Uncivilized.

    Hang Geng : 2010 Spring Festival evening show – ( 2011 also cast him)

    JYJ , you cannot work peacefully in Korea, pls considers emigration seriously: ( and no military enlistment required ). Tell your country , you guys not afraid of boot camp enlistment , but due to
    can ‘t earn a living, so have to leave.

    Many empty places for to arts and performance talents : HK now have Yundi Li, 陈道明, Vicki Zhao wei, Chou suen, 胡軍、章子怡、湯唯 ,李寧….

    Hong Kong is twin city of Shanghai, Yoochun spent a few days in HK for holiday and
    …? just saying. In all, Yoochun gave up the US green card, to become a loyal SM trainee , BIG FAULT of the century.

    SM has the worst in reward package , but in that years no choice.
    ( 99 :1 , and then the 1 has to divided by 5 ), then exclusive contract mess, a/c sheet mess.

    HK also has similar cases ( 70:30 , very low indeed, same long contract 13 years, also doing sth they might not want to do, but they are talented idols as well, the world may not even heard their names. Reality is, their property asset , already 3 to 4 times of Jang KS, and ages similar. Same same in Bollywood.

    ( sorry fans, today i ‘ m more practical, in respond directly to the above article about deficit tour in S. America)

    JYJ, perhaps a weekend ponder:
    http://www.immd.gov.hk/ehtml/QMAS.htm

    • X
      September 15, 2012 Reply

      That x- Suju member is not blocked by his country shame on SK . do u know this x-Suju member suffers chronic diseas because of the unhealthy work conditions SME put him through i saw him talk about the mistreatment on chinese TV . i am happy he is doing fine i want XIA and JYJ have brodcast in their country too. They got blocked in Japan too. This is why i keep asking fans to help shed light on JYJ and XIA’s case through deep impact media as well as try to contact the ministry of culture to convince them it is in SK international image best interest to lift the ban placed on XIA and JYJ. Tackle two direction and i hope for deplomatic letter writing free of cowardnice in case highlight and bashing cause both dont encourage men in power to continue reading. proper Eloquoncy can go a long way in convincing others to support the cause.

      • JYJ global listener
        September 15, 2012 Reply

        @ X

        Hi, Thanks for your opinion. Yes Hang Geng ‘s case was tragic too, he is doing well back to homeland,
        I hope JYJ three guys the best as well.

        Korean Ministry of Culture , guess many domestic fans have helped express their strong will already.
        (Korean fans are no joking, they can be very fierce yet rational)

        Japan also not happy with this Korean Ministry of Culture, because in their eyes, this organization is an invader,
        trading unfairly to Japan. ( hallyu production at lower cost, and many sponsor , max output of tv drama, movie, songs, idols etc )

        With these two strong constant protests, nothing has been change. Behind this Ministry, many committees.
        You may be interested to know, SM as a listed company, though not that big size, but behind them,
        are lots of retirement funds.

        So, to pull down ALL these for 3 young men? what is the cost.

        These interlocking , interesting corps webs , very easy to notice even in US and many other countries.  
        Rule of the game never in the hand of the weak, yet I trust JYJ has already done their part.

        The Hallyu is a cultural weapon, a mechanism for whole Korea to reach out and influence other countries.
        It needs strict discipline, sizable benefit for govt and big corp, not for its idols.

        Korea needs this big head mechanism to keep on moving, instead of domestic justice.

        JYJ is technically beaten, yet, spiritually, JYJ has won .

        ( ***just my opinion **)

    • X
      September 15, 2012 Reply

      That x- Suju member is not blocked by his country shame on SK . this x-Suju member suffers chronic diseas because of the unhealthy work conditions SME put him through i saw him talk about the mistreatment on chinese TV . i am happy he is doing fine i want XIA and JYJ have brodcast in their country too. They got blocked in Japan too. This is why i keep asking fans to help shed light on JYJ and XIA’s case through deep impact media as well as try to contact the ministry of culture to convince them it is in SK international image best interest to lift the ban placed on XIA and JYJ. Tackle two direction and i hope for deplomatic letter writing free of cowardnice in case highlight and bashing cause both dont encourage men in power to continue reading. proper Eloquoncy can go a long way in convincing others to support the cause.

      • X
        September 15, 2012 Reply

        Sorry i said that already. Double post my bad.

        • JYJ global listener
          September 15, 2012

          @X
          no problem, fans , pls have a good time with a cup of favorable drink.

  13. noiha
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Reblogged this on ~ blogging my fangirl-ness.

  14. Jersey Sun
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    i think its more than 800,000 now….JYJ is now a global phenomenon

  15. lisan
    September 14, 2012 Reply

    Reblogged this on luminarytriad.

  16. Kenya Levira (@LadyLevira)
    September 15, 2012 Reply

    Mark this!!!
    JYJ is officially the first INDIE BOYBAND ever~
    No BIG record labels whatsoever..made n compose their own song, publish it independently

  17. dreamalexia
    September 15, 2012 Reply

    Reblogged this on dreamalexia.

  18. ai uta
    September 15, 2012 Reply

    @jyj global listener
    @aurora
    believe me, i feel you both..i feel like i want to cry along with you..thanks for sharing all the informations. As much as i want jyj to gain easier money (lol @ imagining jyj sell cupcakes’s francise to fans, but it might be a good idea), i never want them to leave doing music neither to emigrate out from south korea. Those two things are their prides. At this point of time (very hard time, i think), i just hope that fans remain loyal,encouraging,supporting, so that jyj not giving up.
    Note: jyj (well, everyone including us) does need to start thinking on how to make easy money, as i think become successful enterpreneur is the most fair and possible way. Best of the best wish for jyj.

  19. Ana Saverio
    September 19, 2012 Reply

    Reblogged this on The Fireflies Glow.

  20. makiforjyj
    September 19, 2012 Reply

    I hope nobody asked this before in this post… they sold “only” 320.000 copies of the Korean album? Is this possible? I assume that not only Korean fans bought it, but international too, so wouldn’t it be logical that more than 450.000 copies?

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