SM Entertainment and the group JYJ (Jaejoong Kim, Junsu Kim and Yuchun Park) who have been in dispute regarding the exclusive contract of the Idol group TVXQ failed to find an agreement and remained as far apart as ever.
Seoul Central District Court Civil Department 47 held an arbitration date for JYJ’s exclusive contract dispute at Arbitration room #579 of Seoul Central District Court. The lawsuit was about to be ruled on Sep 13, but it was brought to arbitration by the court’s authority.
The court held an arbitration date for about an hour with Young Min Kim, the CEO of SM Entertainment, and the both parties’ lawyers in order to urge an agreement, however, the both parties turned back after finding their different stances again, having no results.
“There was no outcome at all”, said JYJ’s lawyer told StarNews, implying the arbitration was failed. He added that “We only set forth our own opinions in each stance. There was no change about the differences in opinions”.
The court again suggested the both parties to have a mutual agreement. But, it did not set any dates for next hearings, and suspended the verdict indefinitely in the manner of having enough time for agreements. Therefore, the lawsuit that has been dragged out for 3 years since 2009, not become lost in the mists without an end.
So far, there have been a number of arbitration dates since last May in order to try to reconcile their differences in opinion and the verdict date had been set soon, but the arbitration date was set after the court recommended the both parties’ mutual agreement.
JYJ filed an injunction saying “We would the court to terminate the validity of an unfair contract” in 2009, and SM Entertainment filed a lawsuit to clarify the validity of an exclusive contract in April 2010 after the court accepted the injunction. JYJ also filed a lawsuit to clarify the invalidity of an exclusive contract too. And the court rejected all injunctions filed by SM Entertainment (Objection against the injunction ruled in 2009 and an injunction to terminate the validity of an exclusive contract –between JYJ and C-JeS-.), confirming that the exclusive contract between SME and JYJ is invalid and JYJ’s independent activities are guaranteed as well as legally right.
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To help your understandings:
- This is not about who wins the lawsuit, based on the fact that SM’s lawsuit (the above 2 lawsuits were proceeded at the same time) was finished before JYJ’s lawsuit. The result is already out – the contract between SM and JYJ is invalid. The main issue is now how much SM would have to pay JYJ as compensation for damages.
- ‘Suspend the verdict indefinitely’ means more like ‘urge an agreement by force, in details such as compensation for damages’.
- If the lawsuit is finished by the both parties mutual agreement: JYJ receives compensation for damages amounted by arbitration and the case would be finished without further verdict and the appeal/trial at the Supreme Court.
- I cannot say further why the court keeps suggesting mutual agreements and feel absolutely disgusted. I can only guess that there is the president election in November in Korea, and the present season is easily effected by political manner as all personnel matters of officials would be changed after the election. We all feel so angry but all we can do is stick together for JYJ even if it sounds depressing. Cheer Up everyone! For JYJ’s sake.
Original Link: Nate, Naver <– Click here please
Translated by: http://dedicatee.wordpress.com
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[INFO] Knetizens reactions
Article: SM vs JYJ verdict postponed indefinitely
Source: Star News via Nate
Arbitration between the two parties have failed once again. The court will be postponing their decision indefinitely to coax them into making an agreement.
1. [+542, -92] Let them go already
2. [+482, -59] The final decision was supposed to be September 13th… what do you mean postponed indefinitely?
3. [+532, -110] SM… You’re going too far…
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*breath taking*
Holly JYJ !!!
Is it bad that i wish that SM just burns to the ground? >.<
well for me personally it’s still not enough only with just burn to the ground…….
maybe it’s sound terrible but i wish that every person who already done bad things to our boys also get their punishment, no matter if it’s by a law or anything else because those people also must taste every sadness,hurt moment that our boys have…i am sorry i am not a person who can forgive someone so easily……even though i already tried to do that but…..i guess it’s really hard to be done.
once again i am sorry for post this comment (bow)…..man……i felt like a bad person now *sigh*……..
@miaw
Don’t feel bad Miaw. It’s human nature to be angry & upset & to want to punish someone when they’ve hurt us or someone we love, esp when they just keep on doing the wrong thing.
Yap! for JYJ’s sake — always keep the faith!!!
*thank you so much for this article — it’s such a great help in enlightening us about this issue*
JYJ, fighting!!!
Everyone, fighting!!!
This just makes we love JYJ more and more and more and more and more !!!!!!!!!
Especially my Jaejoongie , pls don’t be sad. He’s the one I worry the most, he’s too sensitive.
Jaejoong ah~ Be strong!!! It’s definitely that on this long run you always have us together with you. FIGHTING!!!!!!!
The judge in this case is a real judge, huh? Not a con artist, huh? Why it seems that he/she doesn’t really knows his/her job and let the people in dispute to solve the problem themselves?
Good point about the election. This makes more sense to me now. I still hate it, but cringeing, weak politicians in a tough election season are something you find all over the world. Election soon, though, I think. Then maybe the court will get off its judicial you-know-what and get on woth the obvious. JYJ fighting!
JYJ BE STRONG.
and ‘THE DAY’ will come for sure.. show them who you are… JYJ FIGHTING!!!
I’ll be lying if I say I’m not upset and frustrated with this news. SM is such an establish and huge company yet they refuse to pay up. Joke of the century. SCREW SM! JYJ HWAITING!!!!
i’m bad if say lee soo man to death?!
kill l.soo man?
sorry! but i’m really angry!
jyj fighting!
this judge is corrupt! grrrrrrrrrrrrr….
SM WILL POSTPONED ALWAYS THIS STUPID LAWSUIT!
JUST BECAUSE HAS FEAR OF LOST HIS STUPID MONEY!
BECAUSE IF HE LOST THIS WILL MUST PAY A LOT MONEY TO JYJ!
SM SO PITY
JYJ FIGHTING!
its not really my concern on how much SM will have to pay JYJ ( although i will be happy if SM pay billions
)
what concerns me most is JYJ not being able to appear in local music shows and not being able to hear their music in their own country because of that SHOOT influence SM had. i want this lawsuit to end so that programs wont give any reason for not playing or guesting JYJ and their music.
i agree. that is the real issue here. not that JYJ would not have use for all the money sm owes them, however, they don’t need it, they need to be able to be treated as treasured sunbaes and be allowed to share their music on tv programs, like they belong in korea instead of like they are outcasts being punished for standing up for their rights, the entire industry needs to be responsible for their actions and treat JYJ fairly as respected artists.
ah whatever-lah buat SM ato apa tu acara2 musik korea… selama JYJ ttp di dunia musik its ok.. lgpl slama 3 tahun ini mereka baik2 ja.. malah sukses..
thinking positive aja dah. sakit ati klo bawa2 nama SM trus.. pengen hapus tu huruf S dan M
they (SM) still need LONG LONG LONG time to pay the damage they’d cause JYJ. Because it’s too big! (why don’t they sell their company?! if it really priceless =..=)
and.. even though JYJ had win for sometimes, the broadcasting companies still ignore them. can’t the judge or law do something about that? *frustated*
off course no matter what i’ll always support and love my JYJ! forever!
why the Judge so reluctant to give out a verdict? the other 2 judges werent reluctant like this. Why cant he understand and keep insisting abt the agreement, JYJ brought the lawsuit bcoz they cant have any agreement with SM. if they can,they wont submitted the lawsuit!!! he granted SM’s arbitration and it was failed. JYJ’s side have stated they dont want anything to do again with them. thus they brought in the lawsuit. he must known the other 2 lawsuit’s verdicts. he have read all the documents, saw the proves, hear the arguments from both side. he must also heard about what SM did and KFTC verdict of what SM did over the other court’s verdict… so why so reluctant? moreover to postponed the verdict INDEFINITELY? heck, he have all those months to make up his mind!!!
like the article stated, click the links please. so more people can see it.
Whoa, how does this even make sense? Both parties can’t reach mutual agreement, that’s why they bring their disputes to court for the judge to settle for them based on the laws and justice. Now this judge basically implies that “screw you, I ain’t doing my job. You’re on your own. This case can go on forever for all I care”? Whoa. Does he implicitly admit that he’s afraid of going against SME and indirectly help that evil company to suppress JYJ indefinitely? X( It’s not that JYJ don’t want it to end; the problem is that SME wants them to “forget the past”, or in other words, it doesn’t want to pay JYJ the compensation of damages JYJ deserve. How is it even a settlement? Can JYJ somehow bring the case to the higher court? This Seoul Central District Court looks highly incompetent and ridiculous to me. JYJ, I support you, please never give up or back down. Fighting!
@Angie
It makes complete sense if your legal system plays by rules no forthright democracy would even suggest using. While I’m the last person to tell anyone how they should run their country, I can’t help but think if SK had a jury system, this case would have been over back in 2009.
This is how countries that wish to maintain authoritarian control over it’s citizens operates. Provide the barest minimum freedoms and keep control over the rest. The picture this paints is not a good one. While the powers that be smile in the face of the international community as if they care what you think, they are smirking behind closed doors.
This situation makes me only want to stand stronger. I hate bullies of any kind. I don’t care what their stripes are. If SM thinks it can kill the careers of JYJ they have another think coming.
@buttlefliesarefree2
“Behind every great fortune, there is great crime ” ~ Honoré de Balzac
This incompetent jury system, demo more to the new generation in S. Korea.
What a total loss!
Besides branded hardware, I wonder WHAT else can be proud of as a S. Korean.
*** also, outdated penalty for sex assault case.
In 2008, two national horrible rape cased, justice were not fully extended.
One is singer Ali ( Roof top prince OST – ” Hurt ” ) , she apologized in public for new album used the concept of a child sex assault at 8 , at a church toilet ! ( historically brutal)
( Roof top prince OST singers all experience life traumatic cases, including Xia Junsu. Praise the producer for the courage to pull them together. )
this link:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/12/19/2011121901546.html
Second is the child , nick name ” Na-young”. Too brutal to mention again. President Lee , personally
angry, but admit court has limited power
These two rape cases, offenders only mild imprisonment! The nation is raging! Many repeated offenders are returning to the society within coming 4 years , that is 2016!
This case will film into movie, call the ” the little hands”.
Recent age 37 mom, sent 2 pre-school kids to bus, was assaulted to death at home by a repeated sex-offender, with a digital ankle brace
This link:
http://english.eastday.com/e/120831/u1a6828827.html
Apology , apology, apology…. without actual legal sanction, this is ridiculous.
JYJ’s case, compare to the society all others grievance & tears, seem a ” trivial”.
I m deeply sorry.
@JYJ global listener
What I find the most telling is this belief that things can’t change. Yes, they can. But in order for that to happen, one must have the will. Where there is a will, there is a way. Sound familiar?
If the people of SK want something different for their society, they must begin to demand, and stop accepting the status quo. It takes time, but if you never try, if will never happen.
The U.S. is not perfect. All kinds of madness and mayhem goes on here. But when good people get tired of letting things geting out of control, they fight back. Sometimes the battle is difficult, but to do nothing is worse. There are all kinds of examples to show this.
Those cases you cite, could be headlines from over here. But trust me when I say, there would be no acceptance that nothing could be done to change or correct. Legislatures get inundated with protests to make changes in laws that work for the people. Those whose duty it is to enact, know their butts are on the line and could be out of a job! So, sitting around lamenting is just that sitting around.
Laws are what govern what happens. Laws can affect all kinds of life situations, some more pressing than others. But every person’s needs should count. If the people of SK don’t like what is happening, then they should DEMAND from their legislature changes that will protect the citizenry! This is how a democracy works. Now unless the people of SK don’t understand this, that makes the deal more difficult. Collectivism thought is only going to get you but so far. The world is going at a much faster pace than that kind of thought. If you are not adaptable, you get left behind.
But they have to know, if they want change, they have to be the change they want to see.
@buttlefliesarefree2
Agree, we all want justice to be done. For JYJ case, unless become a public interest cases, eg all artists joint action, or other 80s, 90s generation line up to rally against the legal system, otherwise, things will keep stuck there like that.
JYJ, at an embarrassing social economic position.
They are not angry Korea farmer, livestock or poultry owners, nor giant but falling vehicle factory workers,
even not the poorest. JYJ NO union to support.
They are like long haul sailors, sent to overseas working, earn income for the company and their country….and one day, suddenly wildcat on strike….and things went on like that. What’s worst, so few local Korea artists to support ( though, may support them invisibly ) ,
Worst of worst ,their own 2 members walked away from them. From the view of moral HIGHLAND, JYJ gains so little support.
Koreans are characterized in tough, very tough and act in collective action. They seldom highlight PERSONAL INTEREST OR BENEFIT. That are the points JYJ being attacked.
Due to language barrier, I don’t think Korean are so open and liberal enough to consider all overseas support for JYJ. Plus, during 1997 and 2007 monetary tsunami, ( actually S. Korea sucked in monetary system , made the whole nation suffer), whole country women/ ajuma/ housewives took out their personally gold and silver accessories , donated to the govt, that help to rescue the country from falling down!
That was totally stunning and made a history!!!
After all, Korean W, perhaps the weakest currency in the Asia region. (just saying). Earning foreign currency, with no smoke industry – Hallyu , is the only way out. However, as suck as their govt, plus last Friday QE III, with unlimited money note printing supply, SUPER INFLATION is coming. ( gold, copper, fuel rose up),I m sure, S. Korea will be the 1st one become another ” Zimbabwe Dollar ” country.
That is where JYJ living place .
I m sorry for the whole situation.
“After all, Korean W, perhaps the weakest currency in the Asia region. (just saying). Earning foreign currency, with no smoke industry – Hallyu , is the only way out. However, as suck as their govt, plus last Friday QE III, with unlimited money note printing supply, SUPER INFLATION is coming. ( gold, copper, fuel rose up),I m sure, S. Korea will be the 1st one become another ” Zimbabwe Dollar ” country.”
I’m going to admit I’m not that up on SK’s economic situation. I was under the impression their economy was doing fairly well. All things considered. It’s not as if they don’t have any exports. Korean products are selling quite well over here in the States. Their autos, large appliances and electronics are all over the place. I do know the weakest of the weak are not fairing well, especially the poor elderly.
Granted there are things they must import because of their topography, but Hallyu is not something I would hang my hat on for economic survival. Being a country of small size, that just doesn’t make good sense.
But if Lee is reelected, and I don’t see anything that says he won’t, if he keeps these policies going, he’s going to do more damage. This will make it easier for the progressives to get in control. His party was able to maintain control in the legislature, so this will be interesting to follow.
@buttlefliesarefree2
Hi, yes, if the newly nominated President replace existing Mr. Lee, which is more aggressive.
( Existing Mr. Lee’s govt has long been a weak system, on and on protest against him, especially on US / JP relation )
But probably, not that favors JYJ’s civil case , just saying.
Meanwhile, S. Korea export to US looks like plentiful , ( motor, computer, home appliance, textiles & garment) but the profit margin too low, Currency too low, bad debt too much. Their plant and supply chains mostly in China now. With huge currency difference, how can they earn profit ?
Also, Europe rivals suppliers are not that very behind of S. Korea. Their quality is even better.
What is more funny, the import from US is rising than ever. ( after WTO, all sorts of goods, products, service….) . Already killed many local business. Some Journal keep tracking on that, the stock mkt is ” fooling” ppl. ( * must have a field trip to really understand the situation)
They have no natural resource to produce steel , must import raw material from Australia , for example. The extreme currency exchange rate , cause many corps misused the monetary tools – accumulator. ( some airline in deep shit, trying to offset the great Aust $ fluctuation rate, and earn some little difference. Too bad, eventually the airline lost 3 years revenue in just a few months transaction. So many even China enterprise lost 2/3 of the company asset. I don’t think S. Korea is FREE from this gambling disaster. They just covered up….till one day explosion.
The import and export is very imbalanced. So S. Korea heavily rely on tourism now, that is why SM turns to culture total service provider = travel agency. ”
“Black cat , white cat , which one can catches fish is considered good cat” ~ said by Deng Xiaoping
This is , the era.
I just came across the YouTube video made by The Stream of their special report on Kpop’s influence as a soft power and it’s effect on the regional politics in South Korea… the discussion is quite interesting.
As I was watching, I couldn’t help but think about JYJ’s issues with SM and the reasons why the judicial system seems to be dragging their feet on issuing a judgment in this case.
It’s over a 1/2 hour long but worth watching…
@dbullock (@___djb___) ∞
Very insightful. Thanks for posting. I found myself agreeing with a number of points that were made. Even though there might be economic gains, it still does not translate into longevity unless there is a more realistic component to the artistry. People’s tastes can become finicky and picky at the drop of a hat. If you’re not able to maintain a solid base, there goes that wave.
The issue of how the industry mirrors or doesn’t mirror the general population is another important issue. If every young person of school age years wants to become a pop idol, where are all the occupations that are needed to sustain the growth and infrastructure of a country going to come from? Then where will your economy be?
dbullock (@___djb___)
Thank you for your sharing .
And must say, hallyu is the greatest window dressing.
JYJ case, is a powerful window cleansing agent
OK.I’m not a lawyer, but I think that , if JYJ really want to END THIS ENDLESS TRIAL, they could give up to any compensation JUST TO END ANY RELATION OR CONTRACT WITH sme. For God’s sake, this is already too much! Yes, yhey may be RIGHT saying that SME took profit such a long time on JYJ’s activities, but they ” MUST CUT THE EVIL FROM THE ROOTS” AND …END IT!
You are saying JYJ should just end this trial to any compensation by SME? To cut the evil from the roots ? Wow, this means JYJ to let SME off the hook so easily? Yes, they don’t really care much about what they will get frm SME as they are earning by millions now. But for all the pains they had suffered during those years working so hard in Japan and Korea like slaves to SME is something they will not forget. They didn’t get paid in proper amount and ran to debts. SME didn’t even lift a finger to help them. They want SME to suffer even if it means no end to this lawsuit. Everyone can see who is the evil one who is playing dirty. One day they will pay and come begging JYJ to help them . hey, maybe JYJ will really buys up all the shares in SME and become the big bosses there.. That is the day I’m waiting for…..
What a shame, JYJ is really doing so much for Korea! Promoting Kpop and Kdrama to the world, acting as representatives to organisations and giving donations to the needy in and out of the country but do they deserve all these ill-treatment? I really hope by end of this year or early next year they will be allowed to perform on stage and in Music programmes once their new album is out. God Blessed our JYJ boys! Always KeepThe Faith! Amen.
@Magda Magdalena
No, they should not give up any compensation. They worked their butts off what they are asking for. They have a right to it. If they are determined to hang in there, then it is right for them to do so. The contract in effect has ended. The court has already declared it void. The only thing left now is for SM to man up and compensate JYJ what they are due. That is how the real world works.
Take a look at how much LSM is worth and then ask yourself…Why is it fair for this monster to be fat rich and the artists receive slave wages?
You work your fanny off for years, undergo enormous hardships while doing this, then let your employer cheat you. Come back and tell us how you feel about it.
Amen @ BAF Amen to that! It would be so simple for JYJ to cave in and just ‘let by gones be’, but I doubt if the members of JYJ are only thinking of themselves. There are other youngsters coming along who want the chance to be famous; what happens to them when a large company like SM dangles a golden carrot in front of them; they sign(their parents)on the dotted line, unaware that they’ve just signed away half of their youth away! No! I hope JYJ together and as individuals can stay as strong as they have always been; we can stand with them til they say otherwise.
@Magda Magdalena
I understand where you’re coming from with this suggestion. We all want this trial to be over, & none more so than Jaejoong, Chunnie & Junsu themselves. But they shouldn’t have to forfeit their rights, & the money they made & that SM STOLE from them, just to be free of a company that has already been proven to be in the wrong. The compensation isn’t just about the money, & the onus shouldn’t be place on JYJ to end the trial by forfeiting their rights & walking away.
Reblogged this on My Blog.
The Emperor’s New Clothing:
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1. Just appoint another group of lawyers to file SM bankruptcy at another court.
Debtors habitual excuses for any due payment ALWAYS drag like this.
2. Incompetent judges at this level of court, should be under condemn at a higher court.
Do it.
3. Never mind the president election. Mr. Lee’s brother already under bribery scandal investigation now. And ex-president Roh Moo-Hyun took his life in 2009. For SM. Lee, in 2004 who was given a second chance from 2 years imprisonment for fraud, obviously an evil servant. You were released, but in turn you persecute the weaker , bully them non-stop. Now , time for you to sing ” Set me Free”.
The Fallen Titanic:
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For SM, with such a deep shit uncompleted lawsuit, is very difficult to attract new source of capital when in great capital in need.
- To existing shareholders ( individual & commercial). For long time ( since 1985) , you remain silent over controversial subjects , eg slave contract, and earning shameful dividend, buy /sell difference. We don’t have to warn you to jump earlier
- Based on how desperate SM is, I am sure there will be another wave of group idols exodus.
JYJ in REALITY , not only vs SM , but vs the United Asia Management ( Big 6 : SM Entertainment, YG Entertainment, JYP Entertainment, KeyEast, AMENT and Star J Entertainment ),
plus KMP Holdings ( a joint venture between S.M., YG, JYP, Star Empire )
- Target the bull’s eye , Quick:
-The strong & friendly tide between SM & JAPAN , plus the CEO KIM lived in JP for 16 years,
all idols pro – JP. Just by 10 weibo spreading, EXPEL SM out of Great China Region. And , hallyu already boycott by JP. SM, unlike YG , poor in US and Europe actually. ( 80% income vanished)
- disintegrated the UAM, KMP. There, you are free.
To JYJ:
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-JYJ, I have no idea how much the compensation you are looking for, and other clauses left behind.
Pls note, that sum can be earned elsewhere again. You got the Great China Region , western mkts.
- with heavy WANTED reward, say , US$ 1,500,000 , recruiting the best idea to end this case , I m sure you can get the right answer before Mid-Autumn Festival. And have happy time to eat moon cake with hot green tea.
- Time for SM to perform at Sahara Desert. Thank you.
Red Light , Green Light , here your GUM – ( we’re not Tom C fans )
***( above, all are casual comment , a fiction , a comic, nothing offensive)
Seriously, why doesn’t the co-called judge just draw on the paper whatever comes on his mind and give a judgement that can be appealed?? He’s already made his country’s judicial system a parody!
Postponed indefinitely???Aside from putting pressure on JYJ, this is a glaring case of denial of justice. In other worlds, it’s just as if, in front of the courts JJ/YC/JS aren’t acknowledged they exist.
Oh God, i wanna rumble so much right now
excuse me your honor..but what is this…what is on your mind…
if its indefinite…SM is all smile…JYJ and all of us is hurting…your not doing your work just to please evil people…
whats gonna happen after this since it says indefinite..we might wait for another 3yrs or 30?
i dont know what to think and what to feel.
this case is driving me crazy
SM’ll drag lawsuit as long as they can becoz they just wanna waste JYJ’s previous time and make people forget JYJ as a singer after they’re going to army and at that time they’re already over 30. How can a singer @ that age easily survive in a competitive/terrible Korean entertainment??? SM don’t care about their time, but the time affects JYJ
I think American Ent don’t care much about the age, they’ll be famous as long as they’ve talents. But in Korea, I think that’s so different! the age’s just # but it’s so important for an artist’s life. So, IF the lawsuit’s battle continues to delay the final decision, JYJ will be the one to be hurt badly 
even they’d win in the end 
beczo SM’s a big and rich company, If they’re going to lose, they just lose a little $ from a big buck. But JYJ spent a lot of $ and waste their precious time for their lawsuit
JYJ is working in parallel, Even if JYJ has ended all these lawsuit, SM still has their way to block JYJ from TV appearance, TV stations have all kinds of excuses. From step 1 when JYJ was out as JYJ, they have planned for a long battle, see how they change their music style, not a dance-pop idol again. And it’s really a good move for them to turn into an actor, (well it’s also an outcome of SM suppressing them from music area, they can only try out the drama way, that’s where SM can’t stretch their paws to) as an actor, 30+ is also ok, but as an idol, you are dying before 30.
@naicha70
Agree, JYJ turn to acting is good move. And after 3 years ” draining ” the J-pop images. Now, under
political turmoil between China & JP, which JYJ should thank God for this ” disguised ” blessing.
However, JYJ acting is NOT yet free from SM & alliance’s paw. Well , for the giant agencies , if all actors, actress ALL can run the career without agencies, with a fixed agree price. Then how can agency pay their staff ? And how can they pay their shareholders ? or the owners’ families expense.
Let’s watch closer, YC & Jae will not enjoy “honeymoon ” in TV drama or movie soon. Frequent motions in Great China region tell the clues…
Pls also keep an eyes on United Asia Management ( Big 6 : SM Entertainment, YG Entertainment, JYP Entertainment, KeyEast, AMENT and Star J Entertainment ),
plus KMP Holdings ( a joint venture between S.M., YG, JYP, Star Empire )
Let watch the 3 main actors of their next year involvement: Kim Soo Hyun – Kim Hyun Joong – Siwon.
Variety show : sujx x Kang Ho dong cross over with Great China Region.
Tough battle, just started.
Let’s pray.
@JYJ global listener
“Agree, JYJ turn to acting is good move.”
It seemed like a good move until SM C&C announced yesterday their acquisition of AM entertainment: http://www.allkpop.com/2012/09/jang-dong-gun-kim-ha-neul-han-ji-min-lee-soo-geun-kim-byung-man-and-more-become-part-of-sm-entertainments-sm-cc#disqus_thread
It’s not a far stretch to think that they wouldn’t do the same thing they’re doing now to block them from making appearances on music & variety shows… all they would have to do is say they won’t let anyone signed with their company perform in a drama if Jaejoong or Yoochun is being considered for casting.
What’s the backup plan to this?
@dbullock (@___djb___)
Thanks for your updated & yes, these gradually emerge to the sea level.
Luckily , Hyun Bin and Shin Min Ah are out of SM at this moment.
But Hang ji Min, now under SM indirectly ! JYJ fans voted so many times for you recently….
Ha…we can see how desperate SM want to “get rid of ” music industry. Doing so many merging,
acquisition, how much $ has it spent? Swallow all the business, like a greedy snake.
Let it be, to the moment the elephant choked this snake. ( it already positioning itself, no need to be best in dance, sing, act, but always be the priority cultural service provider – make me sick, that is they got lots of fair idols with beautiful faces, can be at your service any time eg. CF, ceremony.
Dangers:
1. once become the typical case Microsoft on Intel, built in IE , is has to pay the price. Just like Samsung, US & JP , Taiwan now so eager to chop it down.
2. Cash flow problem.
3. Loyalty and talented ppl retention problem
4. SM itself with JP, plus the CEO kim, who lived in JP for more than 16 yrs. In China point of view,
is totally “enemy” ( eg Recent Amei ‘s tour concert were all destructed and canceled, due to somebody wrote in weibo, that Amei performed in JP, is pro JP “) Expel SM from Great China , is not a difficult task now. ( the political tension just too raging)
Without the golden eggs market, what is the points SM exists anymore ? Disintegrate , reduce debt is their only way out.
5. Jaejoong & Yoochun, must let overseas enterprises earn some profit for helping them. Many prominent China, Taiwan, HK movie, TV drama producers , better position than SM ally. At least no language barrier. ( pls refer to the movie ” The Thieves” – so many HK, Malay , HK big stars to help. With this power, Jae and Yoochun will not be isolated.
6. Entertainment industry now enter ” war era “. SM will soon find its pocket empty or broken. Most artists sign with it , investor pouring $ in it, all on Titanic. Seriously, they are too optimistic in approaching Greater China Market. Some “enterprises”, will not let it realize its silly dream.
@dbullock (@___djb___)
Thanks again for sharing the updated news.
AM entertainment, and other individual big names in Korea entertainment industry. Very bad move merging with SM. This is quick fix to their personal problems, IF ANY, LIKE shortage of capital ? shortage of younger generation artists? global network ? and manpower????
Understand their average age is 35+ , this is too narrow minded tactics.
They make themselves NO Where to escape, if anything irritates SM like JYJ has meant to SM.
And even Digital Domain Media Group Inc has to go bankrupt, so what is their vision ???
Pls never forget the horrible lesson of Euro zone. Some decade ago, everybody bottom tossed for it.
How about the Euro zone today???? This shit endangers the neighboring countries!
Same same all these merging with SM C & C , will inevitably persecute those who don’t want to conspire with the monster size company SM !
JYJ , and many other smaller labels , hearsay around 500 agencies. Definitely in tougher surviving edges. This left no choice for artists, no choice for consumers.
六国灭亡， 弊在赂秦 ！不赂者以赂者丧。《六国论》苏洵
“Fatal cause of six countries falling down , was to bribe the Qin Dynasty.
Those who didn’t bribe died for those who did” ~ ( Thesis on the six countries ) ~ by Su Xun
@miki4yuu
Yes, it can appear as if SM might be trying to close the door of acting for JYJ. But please keep in mind, the more SM stretches, it too will need to be successful. There is no guarantee that they will succeed. There may very well be folks in the industry who will not be susceptible to SM’s smell.
I would rather think positively about the future for the guys than negatively. The talents they possess are not going to dry up overnight.
What does it mean by INDEFINETLY!!!!!!!! 3 YEARS! 3 fucking years jyj waiting! Its not fair for jyj! Why they keep making arbitration when it always failed! ARRRRRRGGHHHH
As expected … how come an arbitration works for them, it’s the nth times already Mr. Judge.
Can we just line up to http://twitpic.com/aw1pyv , he needs some hard knocking on his brain cells.
!@#$%*&^%$#@#$%^&*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sumpah serapah smua dah it)
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so actually jyj already won but alll matter on this court is how much money jyj will accept
and election pretty much affect jyj-sm arbitration?i dont understand
so it means jyj are going to appear on tv again ?i wanna see them in Running Man, immortal song also
Why I don’t surprise at all = =;; So as soon as SM got bankrupt, JYJ will able to be free? Which I think the government will definitely not let that happen while they can earn a lot of taxes (and kickback) from SM. It made me feel like the day JYJ can be free (to go on broadcast wherever they want to or sing in Japan freely anytime they want to) is the day of goodnees’s victory, or something like that -*- You’re so strong my boys and that is why I want to stand by your side. And this is what matter to me ^^
wew another one- when it will finish…ah..
I hope i can see jyj in running man >.< i want they appear more in Tv show
Been thinking about this all day. Seems to me that the judge is saying that JYJ has to agree to SM’s terms in arbitration. SM is saying that unless JYJ agrees to SM’s terms, the blocking will go on forever. The only way out is to sell their souls to SM, leave SM with all the money they owe them and let SM keep their dignity too.
I’m so proud of JYJ for having the courage to walk out, saying no way. As long as they keep their integrity, the universe itself will support them. I know I will. These are 3 gutsy men, staring down that bully and his buddy the judge.
I believe that He who laughs last laughs the best, the longest… there’s divine justice just you wait SM and their cahoots… 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, (Galatians 6: 7-10)
Vengeance is mine I will repay Romans 12:19
Deuteronomy 32:35 :
To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
I also believe that God will prosper JYJ in their career and personal lives. I will continue giving full support and love to JYJ.
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#FuckSm and #Fuckwhatever!
like someone said “it seemed like a good move until SM C&C announced yesterday their acquisition of AM Ent” JYJ will continue to face with another issue again
with a 4ever reason “if JYJ’s going to participate for casting, SoMeone won’t let ‘their sons& daughters’ perform in that drama” How can this ‘giant devil’ control everything from music to variety shows and now Drama??? poor our JYJ 
As we already know, SM’s ‘sons&daughters’ mostly failed when they participate for dramas! They desperately PR for their ‘sons&daughters’ in the drama’s field, but completely failed
. In contrast, their ‘traitor’ continue getting more popular and successful whenever their name appearing on casting list. How can SoMeone feel angry and jealous for this reason??? Before they can’t block JYJ appearing in drama’s area but now step by step they use any method to attack and make JYJ disappearing in K Ent??? 
Now we can see JYJ only in drama/musical, but they still play dirty game again to make our JYJ disappear 4ever??? now I understand that why every year Korean artists end their lives by committing suicide becoz an evil company like this exists 
I’ve not enough words to describe how terrible SoMeone’s when continuing to play another trick ??? they intend to kick JYJ to foreign country like he did with the member of SJ ???
Korea’s considered as a country of freedom & modern but how can they let SM control everything
This’s the real reason why K judge continued to delay to final decision ??? I really doubt about the K Gov and their justice 
SM’s manipulation is an old story but I wonder no one’s stronger to exist to make K Ent better and fairer???
@JYJ global listener
You said, ‘But Han ji Min, now under SM indirectly ! JYJ fans voted so many times for you recently…’
I know Han ji Min is very appreciative of your votes and I’m sure she supports JYJ in this (afterall she has worked closely with Chunnie and are so appreciative of him as mentioned in many of her interviews) …It’s just that I think perhaps her hands are tied too, as she signed a long term contract (5yrs I think) since 1st Sept 2011 with AM Entertainment ….(now unfortunately under manipulative SM)
Anyway, with all our continued blessings, support and love and the sincerity and hardwork that our JYJ boys put into their craft, I believe that our boys will succeed and not even SM can hinder their success ……We can already see that JYJ are making so many inroads and they are penetrating so many global entertainment markets and I can only predict that more good things will come their
way…
The voices of JYJ fans and audiences are really strong, passionate and clear. in the sense that producers know who are the real draw (as well as economic pull/moneymakers) and they will have a hard time not to think of profits for their productions and will want to be on board the moneymaking bandwagon and our JYJ boys are definitely talented and have one of the most loyal and huge fanbase across all ages in lots of countries and they always generate lots of interests in everything they do….eg. even Yoochun’s wearing an Adidas jacket caused a sold out in Japan’s stores…
About the postphonement of the verdict, I suggest all fans be proactive and write personally to the S Korean judicial system and recommend them to give a verdict…I don’t know whether it’ll make a difference ( though I’ve had accasions where writing helps) but me and some of my friends and family feel that we had to do something as we’re really frustrated! (I can only imagine how our JYJs must feel.!!!!……)
JYJ fighting and we stand united and believe in you!!!
@Didi
Hi, thanks a lot for your sharing.
Understand about Han Ji Man is so passive , no choice….**sigh**….I just a big misfortune, her contract automatically ” transferred” to SM.
Life is full of ironic jokes, though Han JM helped mention a lot about chunnie, however,
under SM new “house rule” this is never again. ( no more 300 years )!
Perhaps SM pair up Siwon with her! Regarding big success of chunnie in RTP.
Bye bye Ji Man unnie , pls take care. And pls forgives JYJ not yet wealthy and powerful enough to purchase back your contract from SM.
Yes, JYJ fan base is strong, they are talented and influential. ( for adidas case, chunnie’s effect a maybe, yet not directly. Becasue Beckham x adidas CF run long before Olympic; and Asia + Global CF by Eason Chan x 2ne1 x others in Tokoyo for quite a long time. Though , i will still credit to chunnie
) . However, JYJ real commercial value still SERIOUSLY DESTROYED & DISCRIMINATED by SM & UAE etc. Their income should have better than now. And Junsu should not record deficit concert income with his fame.
And the ridiculous verdict delay, Didi, glad that you wrote to express the discontent.
Today, IF the incompetent judge see more and more smaller labels being taken over without choices, more artists no place to flee, more consumers’ ideology strictly shaped ,
he or she should repent to God for what he or she has done on 9.13.
No one, will ever dare to irritate this monster size company again. JYJ becomes the tribute at the altar.
I just wish SM would let them go, and pay the charges from all of their “already earned” large sum of money. SM is one of the biggest companies in the K-pop industry, they already gain a lot of money. Why won’t these people have any compassion for JYJ? SM already has a lot of big groups which earn them fame and fortune, so they really should leave JYJ to be. Don’t they realize their actions are going against the fans and natural reason? Will this really continue for a few more years? >_>
Maybe we should ship Judge Judy in Korea… she can preside the case… and she’s good in calculating how much one must pay the other party and get the truth out of you…
Copy and Paste because it belongs here too.
I am not confident enough of my knowledge of this conflict and I hate to email giving incorrect information. Can someone write one good letter??—or more—then we can vote/combine letters. Afterwards, we can all bomb copy & paste it to all the networks listed for us to send to. lol The more we send the same letters, the easier they are bound to take notice. Rather than reading every letter, they’ll easily notice ours without reading through different versions of the same idea. It’s like a lottery. We gotta build our chances of ours getting picked. I actually think this could work, rather than an on-site petition because we’ll be forcing them to act upon our request or their inboxes will get overfilled. LOL Imagine if we did this like we did when we voted for YC during the drama awards…!!
The fart is the court playing at? How many times have both sides tried to reach an agreement? It’s obvious neither of them are going to give in at this rate, what the hell is a court for if all it does is “urge for mutual agreement”? SME and JYJ might as well go to a therapist or a marriage counselor for all that’s worth!