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Have you heard of the following? Do you think is just a rumor? Someone posted this in a group, but the source is unclear:
“JYJ/SM lawsuit final reconcilliation will be on the 8th of October both groups will be on the trial date.”
yeeeeesssss.
i saw on twitter..one of our friends here also aware and saw it online…
praying this is the start of the end of the lawsuit and finally have the verdict…
I ignore rumor.
I just don’t know what to say about the rumor. there should have been confirmation on the District Court in Seoul’s website. Since I don’t read Korean, I can’t see if there is anything. Maybe someone who does read Korean can go and check. I’m just thinking, there’s been no confirmation of this from anywhere else. So I’m skeptical.
[RUMOR] Korea Japan exchange KBEE 2012 will have —-.>JYJ and Kara as ambassadors and hold a mini concert in November
14th-16th November in Osaka, JAPAN
source:
http://www.kotra.or.jp/5791.html
I hope this is true!!!!! X’D Really want to see JYJ and another kpop group together.
I think SM is buying their time (about the prolonged lawsuit with JYJ) to make sure that all entertainment industry is in their hand, and they become the hallyu leader globally,until then they wouldn’t let JYJ go.
And when they finally let JYJ go they gonna make sure that JYJ don’t stand a chance to compete with them.
OK I am really hating that “I miss you” drama is not mentioning there lead actress name … I could wait but if the lead actress name is mentioned than the 2nd lead and c-jes “hate” will go down coz people are not getting over the fact that second lead actress is “that” lady and how she got the role (everyone knows that c-jes butted in right??)… people/netizen are losing interest in the drama … today 2nd lead actress interview is released .. I can see that c-jes doing everything to promote her but the time and situation is not right tbh … netizen are fired up coz lead actress name is yet not mentioned…
Yoochun will/already started action class for the drama and his shooting will start from 23-25 oct .. first broadcast is from 31oct with 2/4 episodes of child actors.
Hope they release the name soon whoever it is I am giving my full support … there is rumor that due to c-jes interference in casting YEH rejected and LMJ and GHS is main candidate .. oh god there is real life drama to make a drama.
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Do you speak Korean? Where are you getting these rumors from? I would suggest that fans not get caught up in netizen frenzy and unfounded claims.
korean yes! i learned it
…an interview of jang mi in ae is released today but the time is not really nice tbh and if you go search on daum and write “bogoshipda” in korean you will see the cast and drama details and some response towards the drama as well so just some negative comments on her made me angry tbh. I am giving my full support … and about the rumor the 2nd lead actress thing came before yoochun accepted the role and …. found that rumor came to be true and thought that other rumor may also be true(sry for that i was blindly doing that) .. and source of rumor is mbcdc!
“I would suggest that fans not get caught up in netizen frenzy and unfounded claims.”<— I am with you
at this point i don’t care about anyone anymore. any actress can take up the lead spot, even if kim sohyun is going to continue it i don’t care (haha). just announce it already…
do ji won will also join the casts… as second lead? he? idk anymore~~
I was in Naver and according to the article, based on my limited knowledge of Korean, I think YEH is confirmed. Those who understand it better, please correct me if I am wrong. Here’s the link http://t.cn/zl0micZ
YEH is confirmed the lead actress in “MISS YOU”. PYC fighting.
what a night….
it seems like my world turn upside down…im sooooo hurt for my angel JUNSU
also soooo sorry and hurt for my angel’s parents who i believe was there together w/ him to show support but unfortunately again witness one hell of unfair,unjustice treatment given to their beloved son…
go to hell sbs..waiting for the day you’ll go bankcrupt and breakdown…
stay strong JYJ….
I was trying to tell someone about JYJ but i didnt say their name i just said these singers wont get brodcast. And this person replied she dont care about someone who couldnt make it in the industry why you upset they dont air their music. I felt stabbed. This is why brodcast is important for singers. Its a sign they are part of the music industry but thing is if your not brodcast as singer then your not part of music industry to the public . This is why JYJ have to go on brodcast. I hate SME i hate lee so man. Lee So man hurt JYJ. I hurt so bad for Junsu’s SBS cheating him. Used him. Its so ugly how he got treated. SME acts . Fans must act too. Or we just let SME act only?
@My heart’s tears
Yes, we must act. We are. We international fans have formed a fan project called Stand Up For JYJ. http://www.standupforjyj.com/
Please join us.
But beyond that, please keep in mind that JYJ is far far greater than the corrupt and insular little music scene in S. Korea. They will be a global phenomenon with very few changes, from being 2/3 of the greatest boyband SM ever created to being a true world class group of artists. In a way, all these blocking tactics that SM is perpetrating are doing is convincing them that their future lies elsewhere, somewhere else in the world. This is what I wish S. Korean fans would realize. SM is making it impossible for JYJ to stay in S. Korea. If anyone is therefore motivated to mount a campaign to get SM to stop harassing and blocking JYJU, it should be the SK fans.
I agree with lilibaiyu. The world is more than just SME and their cronies. In Korea alone you could find hundreds of artists that rarely get broadcasts or don’t get anything at all and it is their ingenuity and passion that drives foward the music industry. They are the ones who experiment and we aren’t even discussing the droves of unappreciated talent all over the world. JYJ may not share their total anonymity but they share the struggle. I want JYJ to never stop growing and this passage will be just that. A passage unto a more grown up and woderful JYJ. Don’t let misguided people get you down.
@retrokim
” I want JYJ to never stop growing and this passage will be just that. A passage unto a more grown up and woderful JYJ. Don’t let misguided people get you down.”
Very nicely said, I must say.
*Attention Yoon Eun Hye & Yoochun Fans*
Some antis from different sites have disguised themselves pretending to be Yoon Eun Hye and Yoochun Fans. They are now trying to create fanwars between the 2 fanbase. So If you see someone bashing Yoon Eun Hye or posters pretending to be Yoon Eun Hye fans while bashing Yoochun or vice versa, PLEASE IGNORE!
That’s sad. People have way to much time on their hands…
AGREE- Ignore any hating and just know that it’s their problem.
I like both of them (I think it’ll be great), and if they are working together on the SAME PROJECT, why would the fan bases fight? We should all come together so everyone succeeds. Ugh. What is there to even fight about? The anti’s will have to be creative on this one I guess… U_U
LOL! Way way way wayyyyyy too much time.
Hello…
I’ve always been a silent reader of JYJ3 for quite sometime but then can’t help to make an account after knowing recent Junsu’s news.
It’s nice to see many encouraging words towards him. Everyone shares their thoughts and tears for that shameless action of mistreating Jun, (the biggest star and highlight of the night to such get humiliation, sigh, my tears came out naturally. Even unknown wedding singers in my city will be treated with respect and their voices are not so good).
Anyway, I have so many things to ask but i’d like to get your thought on this. I’ve downloaded and watched Nice Guy drama because of hearing the latest Jun’s song, and it was a very good drama, cast, plot and everything even the song ^^. But then, I lost my interest after watching ep8, don’t know whether anyone feels the same. It’s just that I find myself can predict what’s gonna happen for the ending and I don’t want to watch it anymore. (my hard disk is also running out of capacity since PTB and RTP.. T.T)
Do you happened to experience it before? what would you do??
@adorablejun333
Me? I’d wait and watch it on Dramafever. That’s what I plan to do as a matter of fact. What country are you in? I know the countries in SE Asia don’t have access to DF….
I’m in SE Asia and prefer downloading to streaming, hehe, on Youtube.
So you’re saying you’ll wait for the drama to finish then watch it? I’m in the middle of watching it and lost my initial interest after ep 8
In addition Yuchun’s drama is coming and the hard disk will be…. ugh, I’ve never watched 2 drama at once T.T
@adorablejun333
” ugh, I’ve never watched 2 drama at once T.T”
lolol I do it every single day! Right now I’m watching Yi San and Damo.
@lilibaiyu
That’s because you watch it streaming rite? In here the internet is so slow that streaming will take looonnnggg time so that downloading is a better option. (How I wish my country could have upgraded tech like in US for network…)
Well, now it’s Gwangsu and a girl named Kang Choco that left me still curious. They are so cute and funny that I’m still considering to watch NG….
@adorablejun333
Yi San is live streaming. A dear friend gave me Damo recently so I watch that in the mornings on TV/DVD when I’m waking up having my tea. Mind you, I don’t get to watch much of anything during the day, I’m usually pretty busy. But Yi San is a long series so it’s fun to check in on here and there. I never download films from the web – too dangerous. I can’t be without my computer, so I have to stay virus free.
@lilibaiyu
Ooo,.. I see, I’m also being careful with virus (having a program to identify website with virus is quite helpful n I usually only download from utube)
Yisan? If it’s a long series I’m afraid to get bored while watching. I’m also into J-Drama recently (it only got 10 eps) which makes me spend a little time in it.
Anyway, it seems like I’ll also wait the drama to finish while observing the heat from people who’ve watched.
@adorablejun333
“Yisan? If it’s a long series I’m afraid to get bored while watching. I’m also into J-Drama recently (it only got 10 eps) which makes me spend a little time in it. Anyway, it seems like I’ll also wait the drama to finish while observing the heat from people who’ve watched. ”
Yes, I also love J-drama. I haven’t watched too many lately because there have been so many great K-dramas and I only have so much time to watch.
My favorite J actor is Hideaki Takazawa. Who is yours?
@lilibaiyu
Yamapi ^^…. am I too obvious?
Whenever I watch Kurosagi I’ll think of ‘Wow, he reminds me of JJ somehow’. That’s when I come to like him… keke
Ah.. together with Kamenashi Kazuya… they are both so cute in Nobuta o produce… It’s true if u say I like cute n funny guys
Hideaki Takazawa, is he the one who act in Hanazakari?? (pardon if i’m wrong, I just into J-Drama recently)
@adorablejun333
Oh yes, I love Yamapi. I own the movie Kurosagi. I’ve seen it several times. I also saw Nobuta o Produce – liked it a lot. You know, Yamapi is a great friend of Jaejoong’s. they are best buds and hang out together whenever they get the chance.
@lilibaiyu
IKR? Seems that friends will share the same aura..
I watch the series one, Kurosagi, don’t know it had a movie… and yamapi changed so much (from cool to even cooler) from Nobuta to Kuro… I had my jaw dropped when I saw him in Nobuta (I think his hair & character made him different) haha
Hideaki, what is the tittle of drama of him that makes u like him? I’ll add it to my next-watchlist ^^
@adorablejun333
Hideaki – I liked “Season Of The Sun” and “Majo no Jouken.” He’s done so many dramas! I was just looking at them all on Dramawiki – wow! He’s been busy!
@lilibaiyu
Oh…dramawiki? I’m dizzy while looking that much drama title… keke
I enjoy watching drama recommended by people around me, heard their excited little-review n experienced it myself…haha…(a bit gullible like Jun? hihi I like hearing others opinion)
@adorablejun333
Hi
@Sapphire
Hello…..
Do u also enjoy K-Drama??
@adorablejun333
I’ve only watched Jaejoong’s drama’s so far. But I love S Korean movies. In fact, I loved Asian movies for years before I discovered JYJ!
@Sapphire
Aahh, Korean movies… I’ve only watched few (the horror one left me a kind of trauma) n also JJ heaven postman.
In opposite, I enjoy western movies esp action ones
Reposting from Fan Project SU4JYJ because I really want to hear some input and any limitations on my idea. I asked Bruce Automatic to pass this to Junsu. I feel kinda embarrassed but SME case is a very complicated and will be hard to get people to be held accountable when it has reach the political system. Money talks and if it keeps going, then JYJ is looking at a long road ahead of them. Even if they win their case, money can be used to stop them from showing on broadcast.
Does this ban include internet??
Why doesn’t JYJ make a website and do a weekly or whenever video show of their own? PLUS, they can try hard to upload as much as they can to backup sites like facebook, youtube, etc in case of filtering. It could be even a documentary of how work is like in the music and/or acting, with their control of how much personal life they want to include.
We fans LOVE watching anything JYJ. They could easily get random fans from anywhere to volunteer for their random games like Running Man does. It doesn’t have to include celebrities and because of that it’s even MORE funny and entertaining. JYJ are so darn funny by themselves and I bet they could easily think of scripts. TV concerts, heck I’ll listen to them acapella without the flashy lights. This will make them more relatable as a person and people will sympathize them rather than think of them as “untouchable” celebrities. Perhaps, get non-fans to actually realize how much they have to endure all these years and then SM will slowly crumble.
Most people have internet these days and I myself don’t even have a TV (I have kids). If people like what they see, they will past on videos to others. It’s easier to share a link among many than make people watch tv at a particular time and day. Best thing is it can be seen anytime any day because it’s permanently online unlike TV. They could EASILY get paid for advertising on their website because they have a big fanbase to market to AND keep all profits to themselves. FORGET broadcasting and make yourself seen in their own way! The best way to make yourself known is the fans and when we like something, we make sure our friends see it too!!
See how PSY got worldwide recognition from a single video? JYJ can too. They can it request to be a special guest in a video of one of the Most Subscribed Guru/Comedians on Youtube or other popular online celebrities. I don’t think SoMeonE has control over them. For my idea to work, they need many quality videos that will encourage people to “subscribe”, they could always get a special team for ideas, which I think comedy is a good area to start. Hmm, what are the disadvantages? Would this make them be taken less professionally? What do they lose from not being on TV?
@pebble Those are awesome ideas, I hope Bruce gets to tell Junsu. Cjes has a youtube account and I wish that they would put English subtitles on all their videos that they upload, like the interviews the boys do and eventually other languages on those videos. Definitely going the way of internet to connect with their fan base is the best way (right now) for JYJ to go. I would love to see a weekly show with our boys… even if it is just like a talk show…where they banter back and forth.. and we the listeners on Youtube see the captions in our language.
@Pebble
They are great idea’s, but for all we know, Jaejoong, Chunnie & Junsu just may not have the time to do this & their normal jobs too. I’m not jumping on you, but a lot of people have suggested this & I just wanted to point out that there is only 24 hours in the day, & I don’t think anybody wants JYJ to be overworked the way they were in SM.
@Sapphire The best thing about this is they are in complete control of what and how elaborate they want done & when they want to do this. It’s a lot less effort than going into broadcast and they don’t have to pay any agent for the necessary arrangements.
I had assumed that advertisers sought after JYJ and hoped my idea will bring many more to support JYJ. However, recently Tony Moly contract with JYJ was a big thing and surprised me why it was so. Do JYJ have difficulty getting endorsement, ad, CF, etc. deals??
@ Pebbles;
Your idea is BRILLIANT. You are a certified GENIUS! Please try email the CEO of CjeS about this. This could definitey WORK!! I know that JJ and Psy are on Twitter with each other, so it is quite possible for JYJ to do a cameo in one of his videos. By the way, PSY is blowing up the USA! Pebbles, please don’t let this idea go–you have a brilliant mind when you are not busy taking care of those kids.
We’ve discussed this before, & we don’t know why cjes is not up to date with the how influential it can be. They need someone to post their news instantly on Facebook, twitter, but they never do on time. Why don’t you send this to Mr. Egg; he is a personal friend, & understands Korean & English. Maybe we should also tip Flowsik to give JJ the idea first hand
@kawaii00;
I thoroughly agree! Pebble has fantastic idea and all of your suggestions are also excellent. Does anyone know anybody who works in media or public relations at CjeS? Maybe someone could contact them…
@Pebble
“Reposting from Fan Project SU4JYJ because I really want to hear some input and any limitations on my idea. I asked Bruce Automatic to pass this to Junsu. I feel kinda embarrassed but SME case is a very complicated and will be hard to get people to be held accountable when it has reach the political system. Money talks and if it keeps going, then JYJ is looking at a long road ahead of them.”
Please just keep in mind: that “long road” is the stuff that true great art is made of. That and no other. Yes, there are many things that C-jeS can and probably should do, and perhaps will do. Have you emailed them with these ideas? [go to C-jeS website, see contact info.] This is an entrenched problem that will not be solved easily. The thing we must keep in mind is that JYJ has and will continue to prosper, ban or not. We have to take comfort in that even as we continue our fight. The members are not out on the street, in the cold. They are well, feeling positive and active. JYJ fighting!!!
Attention all JYJ fans, do you want to see JYJ on your local music/variety/entertainment shows? Then visit here http://www.standupforjyj.com/suggest-program/ & share links to your favorite TV shows, so that fans around the world can send in requests to have JYJ guest star.
Chinese fans esp, we need links for Chinese shows as soon as possible for Jaejoong’s upcoming FMs.