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Oohh… every month. OK. I was kind of wondering why there wasn’t a new one. and to be honest, we’ve been discussing off topic things on other posts this week, but now we can feel free to do that here. Thanks, Admins!
My thoughts exactly!
I’d like to bring up the subject of a JYJFanClub Membership for Ifans, again; anyone interested? Fan Meets in their tour cities…I know, the language thing, but JYJ have used interpreters numerous times for other FMs. Wouldn’t you L-o-o-o-ve to greet JYJ one on one?^^ Just throwing out some things that are on my mind
I’m interested in that. I heard there are tours for fans to mert them at fanmeets or location shootings and other establishments.
Since they have massive international fans from all over the world, i feel many would be interested, including me. Can anyone enlighten me , do they currently have official jyj membership for koreans only?
There is no JYJ fanclub to my knowledge, it is a Cjes membership that fans can subrscibe to. Unfortunately it is only open for Korean citizens or foreigners living in Korea having a resident registration number
It’s the same for all Korean bands. 
I don’t know any Korean idols where it would be possible to become a member of the official fanclub or that they would have an internation fanclub with the same conditions. It might be regulated by law in Korea. I don’t know.
My family and I are very interested! How do we go about setting something like this up?
i want to know agency JYJ in japan?i wonder who?(i hope is a big or indie agency)
Ellen Degeneris has invited youtube performers to her show andbsome have become known and started a career. Can we introduce JYJ to Ellen and may she can invite them over to perform live on her show.
There was a drive to get this done a while back, but no bite. I guess it comes down to timing.
Should we maybe send a petition to Cjes to create an official Fanclub Membership for I-fans!?
This sounds like a great idea! My family and I will get on board!
I want to ask something I’m not sure about.
Is that true that the song TIME singing by TVXQ showed in JYJ official channel on YouTube Cuz I saw some photos about and I’m not sure it’s fanmade or not
PLZ can someone explain to me
sorry for bad English
i looked up in Cjesjyj channel but couldn’t find any. Maybe it’s a fanmade video. Where did you see it?
Well I saw it before two days on my twitter I add some group for JYJ Turkey , JYJ Egypt n JYJ Europe n they posted some photos that TVXQ’s song appeared in JYJ channel
I’m so shocked when I saw it and I wonder who’s runs the official channel?
I checked the JYJ official youtube channel and I didn’t see anything like that. Please, if you find something strange just go inmediately to the official source and problem solved.
OK ..seriously now , why in the world would a tvxq song/video be in anything official of JYJ ?
that makes no sense …it’s fanmade !
otherwise you’d see it making a storm with fans of both .
not to mention that due to copyright JYJ cannot sing/use old TVXQ songs…
@xiaolongimnida
“not to mention that due to copyright JYJ cannot sing/use old TVXQ songs…”
I still don’t understand why on earth this should be so. Copyright laws truly must be very fundamentally different in SK than they are in the U.S. Here, once a song has been initially recorded, writers listed, publisher and performing right society assigned and registered, ANYONE can re-record it and perform it as long as the publishers, writers and the their performing right societies get paid. I’ve tried to get answers to this question several times. Still no luck.
No, if the copyright owner doesn’t give you permission to use it, you cannot use it even if you are willing to pay the fees. That’s the same everywhere in the world. If the content is not licensed, you are liable for it and can be sued for it. And you can bet SM will not give JYJ the permission to perform these songs. And copyright is a tricky thing. If you have such a contract, the company can claim copyright ownership to things you created yourself. This is the same with the songs JYJ wrote as members of TVXQ. It’s also the same for content created by employees of the US government while on duty, the only difference is that it is under public domain. So if you are a government officer in the US and take photos of the presidnt while you are on duty, with equipment provided by the government, as part of your duties, you cannot claim copyright to the photos. They belong to the govmnt and are therefore in the public domain. Copyright is very complicated, I know, believe me, have been looking into copyright issues for years now because I am an image patroller on Wikipedia.
@xiaolongimnida
“No, if the copyright owner doesn’t give you permission to use it, you cannot use it even if you are willing to pay the fees. That’s the same everywhere in the world. If the content is not licensed, you are liable for it and can be sued for it. And you can bet SM will not give JYJ the permission to perform these songs. ”
Oh, no. that is not correct. Not in the U.S. anyway. I have been a published songwriter for 30 years, have over 30 works recorded and once a song has been recorded for the first time and properly registered, ANYBODY can record it without permission as long as they file the necessary paperwork with either ASCAP or BMI so that writers and publishers can be paid. It is only the initial recording that needs permission and often a fee from the copyright holder, although the fee is negotiable and is often waived.
The only theory I have as to what is going on is that JYJ themselves have decided not to sing old DBSK/TVXQ songs to show their fans that they have definitely moved on.
And yes, I agree with you that SM would certainly wish to impede anything JYJ wants to do musically just as a matter of course.
well, if this is the case then why do we have all these copyvio issues with the Korean songs? There was the news about a Chinese guy reworking one of JJ’s songs (from SM era) and the news went on abouit how he didn’t ask for permission from JJ. If no permission is needed, just pay the fees, then why the whole fuss around copyright? I think you NEED to notify an artists if you want to rework their stuff, cuz it is copyrighted and without permission no one can BUILD upon or change a song, just by paying the fee to a copyright organization, without the artist not even knowing it, as there are other rights for artists as well. When you are the copyright owner, you are the ole owner of ALL RIGHTS, and withot your explicit permission no one can legally take or alter your song. I have read about cases where artists denied permission to other artists to use their stuff. How would this be possible if you can just simply do whatever you want as long as you pay the fee? Copyright owners have the right to decide to whom they licence their content. Unless you have licenced your work under a free Creative Commons licence, I cannot imagine that laws allow people to do whatever they want with your content as long as they pay the fee to the copyright agency…. and they might use your song in a, say, advertisement of call girl services. Content owners have other right besides copyright…
@lilibaiyu
“often a fee from the copyright holder, although the fee is negotiable and is often waived.”
Oops, that’s not what I meant to write. The fee, if any, is paid by the artist who wishes to record the song.
@xiaolongimnida
“well, if this is the case then why do we have all these copyvio issues with the Korean songs? There was the news about a Chinese guy reworking one of JJ’s songs (from SM era) and the news went on abouit how he didn’t ask for permission from JJ. If no permission is needed, just pay the fees, then why the whole fuss around copyright?”
lol That’s why I have been confused and trying for a while now to get ANSWERS to this question. Because I can assure you, we don’t have this issue here in the U.S.
Korean copyright law must be different than that of the U.S.
Here is a case in point: my songwriting partner and I wrote a song called “Tears Don’t Put Out The Fire.” This song has been re-recorded a few times now. The first time was by a Swedish band called Alien. They did all the right things, filed all the paperwork and we kept our copyright and our publishing. Subsequently, it was recorded and released by my group and then recorded by another Swedish band called Osukaru. This last recording wasn’t very good because the band wasn’t either. We would have said “NO, you can’t” if given the chance but we were not even asked because the song was already out there. Yes, they have to pay us royalties but that’s the end of that. As long as the paperwork for the song is registered with ASCAP (for me) they don’t even have to notify us that they are cutting it.Apparently, this is not so in Korea and I’m wondering why. I would like to get answers from someone there in publishing but I don’t know who to contact or if they speak English. So I’ve been stumped so far.
yeah it’s interesting. I just checked our copyright agency’s website here in Hungary and they say that if you want to REWORK a song, you need to obtain permission from the owner beforehand and have to attach it to the application form to the copyright agency. But for recording song they also don’t mention obtaining permission. But you need permission from the publisher if the you want to re-publish an already published song (and no own recording or performing is involved). It indeed seems like it works differently ion different countries.
@xiaolongimnida
” It indeed seems like it works differently ion different countries.”
It sure seems that way to me, at this point anyway. That’s why one needs various “sub-publishers” in the various foreign countries. We went looking for them with the Alien record and the good thing about sub-publishers is that they will often give advances if the song is a very big hit.
And as publishers and owners of the copyright we got to directly collect that money. With a band like DBSK under SM, who knew what kind of sub-publishing deals they were doing all over Asia, with what kind of astronomical advances for publishing they were collecting all of those years from all of them? The guys never saw dime one because SM owned everything.
@lilibaiyu
yes, indeed. Thats why JYJ is now among the richest idols in Korea, but Homin couldn’t even make the list…. I wonder how much they were earning under SM. In merely 3 and a half years Junsu shot to the top of the richest singers… they make insane money now. To think that SM is depriving its artists from the money they deserve… JYJ now earns enough to basically single handedly employ 40 people at Cjes AND be on the top of the richest list… O.o and SM stans are still blind to all this despite the facts. Sad world.
@xiaolongimnida
“To think that SM is depriving its artists from the money they deserve… JYJ now earns enough to basically single handedly employ 40 people at Cjes AND be on the top of the richest list… O.o and SM stans are still blind to all this despite the facts. Sad world.”
Hi my friend,
I wanted to see if I could find an article I read a while back that I thought I had saved in my files but after about a half an hour of searching, I couldn’t find it. I hate to paraphrase it but the gist of it was that a performing right society in Korea was complaining because these was massive amounts of money sitting in their accounts earmarked for SM artists DBSK. All SM had to do was complete filings in order for them to be paid but SM would not do it. They were notified several times to PLEASE do the necessary filings — money was here for their artist. SM would not do it. This led me to believe that SM actually does NOT want its artists to receive this money because if they do they could perhaps use it to hire attorneys to look into their contracts with SM., etc etc.
Jesus O.o that’s seriously disturbing. I know that artists do get paid also for performing rights, and well many idols nowadays contribute by penning a few songs and lyrics. G-Dragon alone earns 1million USD a year in royalties according to sources O.o and it’s something that he has to receive because he is the author, and not his management company. really seems like SM is having its artists row on a slave boat… I cannot imagine how they can treat people like this. YG has long understood that if his artists prosper he will also prosper, and no need for 13 year contract tie people to the company, they will stay because they know he supports them through thick and thin. And look, SM is only on top of the sales charts because he has a lot more artists. YG is able to make almost as much money as SM, with a handful of talents. Right management, right tactics. Why cannot Sm learn the lesson?
@xiaolongimnida
“Jesus O.o that’s seriously disturbing. I know that artists do get paid also for performing rights, and well many idols nowadays contribute by penning a few songs and lyrics. G-Dragon alone earns 1million USD a year in royalties according to sources O.o and it’s something that he has to receive because he is the author, ”
Yes, I really wish I could find that entry about SM not bothering to file the necessary forms for their artists to get paid – it was a shocker. And the society kept sending “reminder letters” to them saying “Hey! There’s money here for your artists! Please just complete the forms and we’ll send it to them!” That’s one of the first things you learn as a published songwriter – you have to make sure you file all necessary forms and get your songs credited and registered correctly if you want to get paid. Once you do, money simply shows up in your mailbox a few times a year from then on. It really breaks my heart that the members of JYJ were defrauded of so much hard earned money due to SM’s greed and/or negligence.
well it was not the song it was only like picture of TVXQ appeared in jyj official youtube channel like the adv in youtube
and I saw it ~
@Angel Jae
There are many many OT5s who are also JYJ fans. For them, a video like this would not necessarily be a problem. Also, fanmade videos are everywhere. Since it’s unlikely it would have been on the official C-jeS channel, it must have been fanmade.
it’s OK to me but I’m really shocked that’s why I came here to ask
thank you all of you
JYJ fans are demonized by those who can’t think for themselves,
but JYJ fans are out there doing so much to help others.
Thanks for posting Lisan.
<3
I love this very much (*¯︶¯*) ♥
JYJ fans are the best. So supportive and loyal T__T
I love my fandom <3 and I love JYJ boys so much!
If our assumptions are correct and Pony Canyon is JYJ/CJeS’ partner in Japan, this really has some huge implications…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony_Canyon
Pony Canyon is a subsidary of one of, if not, the largest media company in Japan.. Fujisankei Communications Group. This company also has Fiji TV, a film company and ties to the U.S. So, if this the partnership, it will possibly have some significant payoffs for as long as they are together.
What I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the wall at AVEX right now.
***Fuji TV*** Typos ‘R US — reporting for duty, sir!
@BAF
Yes, I admit it – I’m kind of pulling for Pony Canyon… they are huge, rich and powerful. Just my opinion of course, but I think it would be good if C-jeS wasn’t handling the duties of a record company any more… They aren’t making good decisions and they are making the same mistakes over and over again.
@butterfliesarefree2
hehe,, I guess we all are the same. Since the news about JYJ’s been approached by Japanese record label post the lawsuit was spreading, I have been searching any information I could find about any potential candidates. One of the most talked about is Pony Canyon, and I’m glad to find out that they are apparently the 3rd largest local record label in Japan. Pony Canyon includes subsidiaries with Fuji TV, and that point I think becomes one of many reason JYJ should consider. JYJ sure wants to spread their wings more on TV broadcast, whether it is on music programs or on TV dramas.
To be honest, if I can hope, I’d like JYJ to sign with Sony Music Entertainment Japan or it’s subsidiaries. Just look at the list of artists they manage/their recording artists, many of my favorite Japanese artists are/were once there. Notable, talented, and great personalities such as Larc en Ciel, Depapepe, Ken Hirai, Mika Nakashima, Yuna Ito, Yui, even Younha once sign with its subsidiaries (Epic Records Japan).
But once I see the list of their key people, and knowing that Naoki Kitagawa is there, it ruined my hope. Basically, any similarities with Star Museum Entertainment Korea (SoMeone) is a Big NO!!!
Naoki Kitagawa is member of Jonny Kitagawa’s family (Jonny’s Entertainment), a huge and the most powerful Jimusho holding artists management systems in Japan, famous with their scarry threat just like what SME’s blacklist treatment been doing to JYJ for more than three years already.
So, I came to a conclusion that whichever record label JYJ choose to sign with, I hope it’s one that can support JYJ with a good intentions.
I like the way JYJ handles information about their new Japanese label. JYJ don’t bother to reveal it, instead they keep it secret. That is JYJ, they are strong enough to just merely using their brand name to promote themselves, no need to boost about how big/how influential their label is. It reminds me that in the end, it’s not about the company but the artist itself. It’s true that management companies might have lend a great help in managing/promoting the artists, but the epitome quality lays on the artist. Equal/mutual understanding should be built between both, in order to guarantee fair work condition.
The atmosphere surrounding their upcoming Dome Concert is just so happy and bright. Avex’s appeal is still ongoing in court, but I almost forget about it… hehehe… who wouldn’t with all the great news and anticipations of a new start coming ahead??
ahh that’s why Johny is scarier or the scariest than SME (soo man)
Johnny makes SM look like Schoolyard bullies.
hi hello everyone..
just wanna ask if JYJ will have a different set of dancers for their TD concert..or will the JYJ dancers still the one dancing for them…coz in my heart i want it to be the JYJ dancers(the one during pres.cermony).coz i feel like they’ve been very loyal and supprtive to JYJ and they need to be present at this very special concert..e
http://jyj3.net/2013/03/06/twitter-130307-jaejoong-twitter-update-with-ryo-san/
This is one of the the dancer that is backing for TD concerts ^^
thank you..
coz im not really super familiar w/ diff. dancers of the boys from before ..im only aware w/ those in the pres.ceremony and the dancers during unforgettable concert 2011..i like them.
Hi (^_^)/ everyone… something more serious that I’m nervous about… is anyone else also worried about what’s happening in North Korea, the nuclear war threats towards the US and South Korea? This all makes me really freakin’ nervous.
No, I’m not worried. This kind of rhetoric comes from NK whenever they are in need of something. From some comments I’ve seen on a couple of political blogs I follow, Jr. is trying to talk tough to strengthen his position internally. Not to mention the fact that China is not about to let them disrupt the status quo. And Jr. may want to throw up a nuclear missile at the U.S. and SK, but that’s why they call them anit-ballistic missiles, to shoot down anything in the air that’s not suppose to be there. And trust me, there are silos up at the 35th parallel. Satellites in space can read your license plate, I think the U.S. will be ready to see a missile go up that needs to come down.
There simply is no payoff for doing this. Being ostracized even more by the world community than they alread are, is not where you want to be. How will they ever get food when they have another famine.
mhhmmmm, thank you for your thoughts on that… I was just reading a comment this morning saying that he will lose face if he backs out and since losing face is such a big deal I was getting a little worried…
yes, it is very scary thing. I know this happens many time but i still worry.
@BAF
Yes, that’s the big problem with nuclear weapons… fallout, drifting here, there and everywhere all over Asia, sickening people, poisoning everything it falls on. China would never allow that. Ever.
@BAF
“Being ostracized even more by the world community than they alread are, is not where you want to be. How will they ever get food when they have another famine.”
If they are crazy and suicidal enough to fire on the US or its ally SK I don’t think food will be a concern for the gigantic smoking crater that will be all that’s left of NK.
What a bizarre place NK is. There have to be many many intelligent, well educated men and women there to be so advanced in science – how can they consent to be ruled by madmen?
Ah, my VE Sister, it’s not about consent. They truly have no choice. The totalitarianism (sp) is extremely tight. Saw a Lisa Ling piece on Oprah one time that she did for National Geographic (I think it was). Went undercover and filmed without them knowing. Really eye opening. The level of paranoia – amongst the hierarcy – there is unbelieveable. The everyday person, is so brainwashed it’s truly pathetic. Her sister didn’t have her skills and got caught, and had to be ‘rescued’ by Slick Willie.
Look, for about 60 years the USSR ranted and raved about firing missiles at the U.S. They spent so much money on their military, couldn’t get bread and butter to market. Look what happened to them. For all their talk, they never did a thing. When Chernobyl happened, I think they had a real dose of reality hit them square in the face.
The conservatives over here, damn near choked all the time working themselves up over the Red Menace. All these saber rattlers do is make noise. And you can bet your sweet bippy China is not going for it.
They have to know there are missiles at the ready right in their faces.
N Koreans also have no access to any other news or information other than the rhetoric put out by their own government, so there is no opposing point of view to cloud the issue let alone have their citizens think for themselves.
As for Baf’s point about NK needing money for the next famine, sadly I don’t think this will bother their government. During their last major famine while millions of their people starved, the hierarchy spent millions on building a museum for their “Great Leader” to show off all the expensive gifts he received from other Communist & dictatorial regimes in.
I’m nervous about tensions possibly escalating too, not only from NK, but in the whole region with all the squabbles going on about who owns what islands. As for NK, most political analysts are saying that there is no way NK will start a war they simply cannot win, but wish both sides would stop the sabre rattling.
*That was meant to be I wish both sides would stop the sabre rattling.
@Sapphire
I don’t buy the “oh they’re all scared, brain-washed automatons” argument for a second, all guests on Oprah to the contrary. This is for all the marbles. The USA is BIG and powerful and they have lots of fearsomely destructive war materiel. NK is not and even if the people at large there don’t know it, the higher ups there do. If NK was crazy enough to launch anything at SK, let alone the West Coast of the U.S. all hell would break loose against them, most certainly against all the known potential hostile targets, missile sites, etc that the U.S. has long go identified and is monitoring. This would be all over before it has begun and quite decisively, the only sad part is that the poor people of NK would inevitably pay the price. Kim Jong Un doesn’t care about them though, that much has been made clear. He’s an idiot and probably needs to be taken out. China will kick up a fuss if it happens but ultimately they are in far deeper partnership with the U.S. than they are with small potatoes NK.
Oh, I’m nervous as well, while the threatening rhetoric has always been standard with N Korea, this is the most direct threat they have ever issued. What makes me nervous about N Korea is less their nuclear arms and more their leadership. If we are talking logic and rational thinking, no way would N Korea ever carry out that threat. All the countries in the UN wouldn’t hesitate to retaliate with deadly force which N Korea, simply speaking, cannot defend against. However, we are not talking about a rational leadership. Thousands of the N Korean citizens are dying of starvation, a problem that could be simply solved by foreign aid which is conditional to them desisting in their nuclear armament activities, but they refuse. And even some countries willing to give them aid, free of conditions are also banned because the leadership does not want to appear weak in needing foreign aid. That thinking is not the mind of a rational sane person with the best interests of the country or citizens in mind.
China has on the surface agreed with the UN resolutions to deter N Korea from their nuclear program however they have done nothing to engage in more stringent regulations against N Korea. Trade is still as strong as ever as well as aid in food and weapons. China will not give up its relationship with N Korea because it fears that if they relinquish their hold on the country, which is very likely that N Korea would suffer a complete collapse without China, then S. Korea, backed by US will over take it.
It drives me crazy that Dennis Rodman is going around spouting about how Kim Jung-un is a nice, humble guy and his visit to the country was great and everything was great. I mean the guy was in Pyongyang which is the capital and only the privileged chosen are even allowed to reside there. Everything is sunshine and roses and well fed bodies and the absolute requirement for being allowed into the city is an unwavering and extreme loyalty to Kim Jung-un. Meanwhile you have people in interment camps, some that have committed crimes, some that merely spoke out against the government and some who are merely related to a person who spoke out agains the government. Yea, they don’t just imprison those that they deemed have broken the laws, but the entire families of these transgressors. Kim Jung-il was the definition of a megalomanic and I had personally hoped that his son, Kim Jung-un would fair better with having lived and been educated outside the confines of a strictly regulated educations system of N Korea, but he’s shaping up to have the same tendencies as his father and worse yet, he’s eager to prove his strength and power.
@mkverse
Don’t take anything Dennis Rodman says to heart. The man is a world class idiot.
@ Lilibaiyu
I agree, however he does have some influence as a public figure and is able to give his skewed account on a much larger stage then even journalists who went undercover there and defectors that managed to escape. That is what frustrates me the most, it influences people who don’t take the time to learn about the situation themselves, which sadly, is a larger amount than it should be.
@mkverse
All you wrote, this is what I was thinking too… it’s not like he’s a logic and rational thinking leader.
@mkverse
Hmmm, no one here in the States takes anything Dennis has to say worth a grain of salt. A long time ago. a VERY LONG TIME, I admired Dennis for his basketball prowess. But sadly Dennis has reduced himself to a characature over the years. He has mental problems. Most understand this. So, Dennis is not a credible spokesperson for squat!
You’re right China is not going to let go of it’s hold on NK, but at the same time they are not going to be foolish enough to allow them to self destruct with a nuclear missile. There are satellites keeping watch. There are anti-ballistic/nuclear silos at the 35th parallel. Anything that remotely looks like a nuclear missile going off will be shot down. Retaliation will be swift. Saber rattling is as old as time. You stated the very reason all this noise is going on…continued starvation.
The Soviets finally got the message that their military budget was draining their country and there was no hope for survival. Hence the change over. China decided it wanted to become a major player in the world, realized improved economic status would play a role, and began welcoming a more capitalistic approach. No accident here. Some take longer than others to come to terms with what the future holds. Isolation will take it’s toll.
No I don’t think China will let N Korea do that either but I also don’t think they are ever going to give up N Korea since China abuts N Korea and would be an absolute strategic weakness should N Korea collapse and S Korea takes over with the help of US forces. So the likely scenario to me would be China would overtake N Korea before it gets to that point. Which would also be disastrous for S Korea as talks of drawing down the US presence in S Korea is ongoing. S Korea against China, it’d be no contest who would win that battle.
While any person who engages in the news knows that Rodman is not the least bit credible, there are sadly a lot people that don’t follow current events themselves and will follow the party line of whoever happens to be talking at that time. Also the internatinal community may not be aware of his mental disorders, it’s all about perception and self reference. The reason it upsets me is because I hear the exact same things being spouted by exchange students and the like that have been granted a stay in the capital of N Korea and can’t seem to realize the actual situation of N Korea.
@mkverse
TBH, all the possible scenarios fit. What I constantly remind myself is this…China is now a major player in the international community. For the first time in decades she is not the outsider. Even though her economy is stalling a bit, she is in much too comfortable a position to have to have it shut down completely because of armed conflict in her region. No goods getting out the rest of the world.
Even those in NK who are pushing this rhetoric cannot be that clueless about what would happen to them should they go completely stupid. The link below is from a political blog I frequent. The article has some interesting talking points from varying analyst sources…
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/south-korea-drills-north-korea-threat.php?ref=fpb
Check out the parts that talk about the SK workforce that goes to NK frequently. Interesting.
“The reason it upsets me is because I hear the exact same things being spouted by exchange students and the like that have been granted a stay in the capital of N Korea and can’t seem to realize the actual situation of N Korea.” NK has such a tight lockdown on what information gets out, it’s not funny at all. You know exactly what they want you to know and nothing more.
Here in the States ours are called low information citizens/voters. These are the types who rely on others to tell them what they should know (FOX news) instead of thinking for themselves. They have contributed greatly to the increased political divide in this country. So, you are not by yourself. Stupid is an equal opportunity disease carrier. It can be found anywhere around the world at any time.
@mkverse
“I mean the guy was in Pyongyang which is the capital and only the privileged chosen are even allowed to reside there. Everything is sunshine and roses and well fed bodies and the absolute requirement for being allowed into the city is an unwavering and extreme loyalty to Kim Jung-un.”
& in addition to that, any foreign visitors to Pyongyang are well & truly supervised & ONLY ALLOWED to see what the government wants them to see.
I don’t know if NK will use their nukes, but they are really training people up in cyber terrorism, & a few well chosen targets – banks, roads, hospitals, etc, could bring a country to it’s knees in under an hour.
@makiforjyj oohhh..i know its a cliche but all i want is worldpeace…this issue w/ N.K ..the ongoing conflict in arab world and added to this is the tension in sabah malaysia..and all the conflict ongoing in evryparts of the world..even here in our country theres always tension..everynight one of my prayers really is for all of us to live in harmony….peace <3
@jaedara748
I really understand your dream of worldpeace, I’m like that too, I dream the same dream (⌒‿⌒) I would like everyone to get alone, but well, reality is something different…. but to focus on the positivness, there are also many who think alike us (⌒‿⌒)
I’m likewise excited and want to know who or which Japanese company label JYJ will be with. I pray for nothing but the best for the best interest of JYJ as a group and individual projects. I sincerely pray that whatever mistakes or lost opportunities done and decided upon be not repeated and in the future whatever is due to him be given appropriate recoupment.
Today marks the 2nd anniversary of the Tohoku quake and tsunami in Japan. My thoughts go out to all those who lost their lives and all those who are still suffering and living in anxiety.
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/03/japan-earthquake-2-years-later-before-and-after/100469/
No like button, but…LIKE!
Thank you butterfly (⌒‿⌒)
Hej everyone (^^)/ what kind of music do you girls (kkk) listen to beside of JYJ? For example me, I’m listening A LOT to J-Rock… bands like UVERworld, SPYAIR, ONE OK ROCK, Buck-Tick, NICO Touches The Walls, etc. but also Serbian, Armenian and Turkish music. So which other bands do you like? ^^ Do you have some recommendations?
JYJ is the only korean artist that i listen to.
I much preferred laidback songs from Bruno Mars, Jason Mraz..
Ah, Neon Trees and Coldplay, of course. Love ‘Animal’.
i simply love good music and great voices. Talking about great music, you can’t not list MUSE. I LOVE MUSE.
I don’t listen only to JYJ, I also like almost everything from Big Bang and G-Dragon, but I’m only fan of JYJ… from other bands I like one or two songs, that’s it. My preference is definitely alternative rock and more fun to dance to music ^^ I didn’t like ballads before I learned about JYJ >_< well, they've changed that very much ^^
Speaking of Muse, I love them too, was at the concert in Strasbourg/France in Dec. 2012 ^^ If you like alternative rock, maybe you'd like 30 Seconds to Mars ^^ They'll release a new album soon, I can't wait ^^
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdtelz_30-seconds-to-mars-closer-to-the-ed_music#.UUH9pzeb8lk
@2017questa
30 Seconds To Mars released today the first single of their new album… maybe you’ll like it ^^ http://www.jared-leto.net/new-music-30-seconds-to-mars-listen-to-the-new-track-up-in-the-air/
@makiforjyj
My interests are varied, but my main music choice is American R&B, all flavors (old and new). My rock preferences tend to be more old school. Smooth jazz, Caribbean, there are Latin pop artists I like as well.
@BAFfie
I pretty much only listen to smooth jazz when I’m working. I find songs with lyrics are distracting because I always start singing along and then I lose count of the seedbeads. lol . I love Chris Botti and Gerald Albright. Also, I love Praful and 3rd Force.
Well, I have a tendency to surf on my radio in my car. And of course I surf YT for my faves. Saw Gerald at fundraiser show for a friend’s organzation. He used to be a neighbor of another friend of mine. Gerald has so much energy. The last jazz concert I went to was a couple of years ago – the Berks Jazz Festival, not far from here. It’s about 10 days, every year. We only did an overnight stay. Lots of variety.
@BAF
“Saw Gerald at fundraiser show for a friend’s organzation. ”
I just love him. We listen to our Smooth Jazz station on the TV’s satellite while we’re doing this and that around the house. That’s where I heard him first. I’m constantly running in to write down artists and songs I like that I hear there because they are all on iTunes – they have a huge Smooth Jazz section.
Could you maybe name some bands? ^^ Thank you ^^
@makforjyj
You asked for some bands. The list I’m going to provide is probably not what you’re used to seeing. As I mentioned, most of my listening pleasure is old school. I am afterall an ahjumma noona.
But a lot of what I’m posting here in on my pc media playlist and turn them on while I’m on the pc. This list in no way completes all the groups I listen to, but is representative of what I like. I chose not to include solo singers as this would make the list too long. Here goes, hope you will seek them out on YT and enjoy…
After 7
The Barrio Boyzz
Boys to Men
The Doobie Brothers
Calo
Cameo
Brothers Johnson
Isley Brothers
Kool and the Gang
Earth, Wind, & Fire
DLG
Friends of Distinction
Funkadelic
KC and the Sunshine Band
Hiroshima
Ilegales
Graham Central Station
Maze featuring Frankie Beverly
Redbone
War
Bon Jovi
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Fleetwood Mac
Heart
Adding, just about every group Motown put out.
Just realized, I left off a few of my favorite female groups, who are/were not Motown artists…
Jade
Pointer Sisters
La Diva
@butterfliesarefree2 ∞
Thank you very much for your effort to list all these artists (⌒‿⌒) You know, I’m an information junky, so I will totally check all of them out (>‿<)
http://bit.ly/SXtDxZ
vot for our jae plizzz
I like these guys:
Hwanhee
Park Hyo Shin
Tim Hwang
4Men
Brian Joo
Se7en
mflo (J-Pop)
Wheesung
Nicky Lee
Aziatics
Mr Children (J-Pop)
Skoop On Somebody (J-Pop)
Sung Joon
Jay Park
Monday Kiz
Kim Bum Soo
Lee Seung Chul
BooHwal featuring Jung Dong Ha
Jay Chou (Chinese)
Anson Hu (Chinese)
Rain
Ha Dong Kyun & Lee Jung (probably session singers)
Nell
Eddie Shin
Park Wan Kyo
Yim Jae Bum
New Heights
Kim Yong Jin
JYP
Huang Yida (Chinese)
Kim Tae Woo
Kyle
Woo Sung
Oh my wow ^^ ok, I only know Aziatix (I ove them ^^), Se7en and Rain…. I’ll check them all out, thank you very much ^^ *very curious here* I’ve also checked the above mentioned composed song from you, very nice ^^
heyyy jyj fans <3 i have a question ! i want to see JYJ updates on LINE but i dont know how ):.. I successful added their official account into my friend list.. but i cant see any updates T__T can anyone help me ? komowooo ~
successfully*
Hi! Maybe you clicked on some settings that disable notifications from your subscribed accounts. If that is not the case, then you an try reinstalling it too in your mobile device if you still don’t get updates
@makiforjyj hi..me for korean artist im a hardcore jyjers and blackjacks…aside from this 2 groups i only listen to drama ost..
in china region..i cant like other artist coz im loyal to jvkv (taiwan f4)i only listen to them in that area…in pinoys ent..i love the bands spongecola and our legendary eraserheads and sarah geronimo for solo singer..
@jaedara748
Ah ok, I understand now your account name too (⌒‿⌒) I never watched taiwan version of Boys over Flowers, so I don’t know the taiwanese F4; they are all idols? I’ll check them out and the other bands you’ve mentioned too (⌒‿⌒) Thank you (⌒‿⌒)
I don’t want to make any controversy here but I just finished talking to my friend who is a Junsu’s bias and I got an uncomfortable feeling.
She told me that nowadays Junsu’s bias fans don’t like JJ’s bias fan (include JJ sometimes) because JJ’s bias fan usually bash Junsu.
I believed someone did that in JYJ3 and I never though it would be a problem. Because one bad mouthing can’t change the truth that JJ and JS love each other like brothers. I thought It’s just someone’s opinion and JYJ International fan are grown up enough to know what is right and wrong. So when I heard about this, I was really worry. It’s like when YC bias fan and JJ bias fan had argument about YC’s CFs. It was really non-sense matter but still it happened. And then again, this non-sense argument was brought up little by little.
Dear JYJ3 admins, I would like to ask you a big favor. TT
I would like to ask you to delete or warn the comment that bad mouthing JYJ members by telling that their bias is better than the other JYJ members (with harsh words that far from normally opinion), I think it will make people understand what JYJ fan should and shouldn’t do. Because these kinds of little things can be a big problem in the future. And I really don’t want it to happen.
JYJ are one and I hope we fan can at least unite enough to make JYJ can get stronger in Entertainment Industry. We have a hard time already to fight with Evil SM and Avex. Don’t let this kind of thing make us fan weak. Because I though it will definitely effect to JYJ TT
Oh I never got this memo. Why would JJ fans bashing JS fans cause anyone to bash back? When do two wrongs make a right? I’m a huge JS bias, I just adore our dolphin. So how could I ever bash or hate on JJ and his fans? JJ and Su are like brothers, it would hurt JS if we run around bashing JJ. And beside all that when JJ is so brave, talented, sweet, funny, and unbearably gorgeous, how can anyone dislike or bash him?
I have a question maybe we could discuss:
Does anybody have the slightest idea what the lyrics to “Kiss B” mean? I’m drawing a blank here….
Hi Lilibaiyu,
I think the narrator is coaxing the girl to come back to him and ditch his current guy. He does this by making her remember how good they were together ahem, in almost all activities they did as a couple
I saw it as seduction mostly through sex , she’s another man’s woman and he wants her for himself.
but you’re our music consultant …how can you be drawing blanks ? …that would mean I’m doing Graffiti.
This
What are you actually doing Meme, your profession I mean? If I may ask (⌒‿⌒)
I just finished my Master in Social Sciences , I work as a Demonstrator in my university .
@meme & JYJ
I know! lolol I’m so ashamed….
I just can’t fathom the “Two play two play/Kiss B/Like it Like it tp” What the hell?? What’s the point of writing something like this? Writing a song to be released to the public that is full of clever little in-jokes that nobody else besides the writers can possibly decipher… why? I don’t get it. Actually, I blame LeeU.. I think he wrote that. (sort of joking, but sort of not.)
I blame Jaejoong’s Engrish .
@meme & JYJ
“I blame Jaejoong’s Engrish .”
Why has meaning suddenly taken this precipitous nose-dive though? ALL his other songs were either totally understandable or, like “Pierrot” easily decipherable. (Oh no, wait – I still haven’t a clue what “Shelter” is trying to say but it just doesn’t matter because I love the song so much.) Actually, I love “Kiss B” in much the same way, I still can’t quite believe that it isn’t being promoted as a single like “Uncommitted” was. It’s a GREAT track! With these lyrics that make no sense stuck in a prominent spot in the middle of it. So still, nobody’s answered my question although I see now I wasn’t specific and I phrased it badly.
What I still don’t understand is “Two play two play/Kiss B/Like it Like it tp” The rest of it, yes, I got… lol
@lilibaiyu
If I remember correctly, during the fansign for the Y album, a fan asked JJ what “TP” meant, and he said that the P stands for “play”, but the fans will have to guess what the T stands for. Some fans thus speculated that TP stands for temperature play, which I think makes sense since he mentioned ice cream at the start of the song.
As for “Kiss B”, I don’t think JJ has explained it yet, but I remember someone said there’s a foreplay game called Kiss B where the players are to kiss only body parts that start with B.
So if the above guesses are correct, then the song is really quite explicit lol. ;P I guess JJ’s reasons for choosing such cryptic lyrics would be that (1) it would be too embarrassing for him to sing it outright (he’s already embarrassed to sing it now as it is <3), and (2) he doesn't want to get into problems with Korea's famously strict censorship board.
@lilibaiyu
Oh wait, now that I scrolled down I saw that someone has explained everything already. Sorry, please ignore my redundant comment!
I think it’s a guy having an affair with a girl in a relationship and he’s trying to seduce her by describing how good they match in bed, so that she comes back to him or be with him and leaving the guy she’s with.
Yep, it I think agree with most of what others are saying.
He’s hitting on another guy’s woman and is telling her in so many ways how much better being with him will be. The other guy can’t give her what he can, emotionally or sexually. Don’t make a mistake and stay with her current dude. He doesn’t think he can fail in his quest but he’s not above letting her know how specific he will be in loving her.
@meme and JYJ
“but you’re our music consultant …how can you be drawing blanks ? …that would mean I’m doing Graffiti.”
ROFL!!!
Hey for those of you who like Bobby Kim or ska.reggae music, do check out this video, featuring my friends, Kingston RudieSka
It’s a cool cover 
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
I LOVE Bobby Kim So much <3 His voice <3333333333333333333333
Two play = 2 people playing the Kiss b game…and he asking her if she likes the way he is doing it or vice versa. Doesn’t TP stand for tongue play?? Just me guessing
its not tongue but temperature… thats why Jj cant say it during his album signing
wait …Temperature as in Temperature play ?
oh my …
@vonz
So … what does that mean?? Temperature?? What does that mean?
From Wikipedia…
“Temperature play is a form of BDSM sensual play where objects and substances are used to stimulate the body’s neuroreceptors for heat and cold for sensual effect. Substances can include water, oil, molten wax, ice, chocolate syrup, whipped cream, melted butter, chilled fresh fruit and steamed vegetables.
Objects can include cutlery, ball chains, necklaces and many others, often pre-heated in hot water or chilled in ice water.
Blindfolds are often used to intensify the effects, and bondage can also amplify the experience.
Safety precautions should be used which are appropriate for the materials, techniques and body parts involved.”
Kinky lot we have here.
@BAF
“Substances can include water, oil, molten wax, ice, chocolate syrup, whipped cream, melted butter, chilled fresh fruit and steamed vegetables.”
Well, damn! That sounds like buffet items on a cruise I want to be on. lol
so temperature is worse than tongue??? Well I’ll be….
@pinky lee
I know. lolol Ya learn something new every day.
@pinky lee
Wait – there’s an actual game called “kiss b”??
Well, heck – maybe I should have Wikipedia-ed “kiss b” before I posted that. lol
I really don’t know, just me guessing…I am finding out a whole lot of stuff from these discussions. “0.0″ OH MY!!!
smh
@pinky lee
“I am finding out a whole lot of stuff from these discussions. “0.0″ OH MY!!!”
Me too, me too. lol Today for instance I learned that Jaejoong is a very naughty boy and he needs to be spanked. Except of course that would just encourage him.
“Jaejoong is a very naughty boy and he needs to be spanked. Except of course that would just encourage him”
…. I can’t …breath !
@lilibaiyu∞
Me too, me too. lol Today for instance I learned that Jaejoong is a very naughty boy and he needs to be spanked. Except of course that would just encourage him.
For some reason it scares the bejesus out of me to think of him that way….Jae and his shyness, but than again that’s the one you need to keep an eye on;) JS
I hope they’ll have a concert in seoul… Do you guys agree???
I would imagine they will wait until they have some new music, like the album they are going to drop later in the year.
Hi I’m back again here to ask something about Jaejoong
so before a couple of days I searched about JJ’s ex-girlfriends and what I found (JaeDy)meaning Jaejoong n Dara well first I was shocked Cuz I thought it’s fanmade but I saw a photo that JJ holding Dara’s hand on airport n I think this one was old one BCUZ of JJ’s hair style maybe it’s was 2009 or 2008 His hair style it’s for Mirotic album style
so what I got today that Dara followed JJ on twitter that’s make me shock n I came here to ask if it’s true that Dara was JJ’s ex girlfriend n
she’s the one who JJ wrote a song for her(Healing for myself)
Ehhh? that airport pics is photoshop by Jaedara fan… cause if its true then it would have made news back then.. xD Also, Dara is a sunbae to Jaejoong. For JJ “healing for myself” Isn’t that for the movie Jackal is coming ost song I don’t think it has anything to do with his past relationship with anyone…. lol Dara likes pretty boys… their is a lot of pretty boys in k-pop. Not only JJ. Right now its Dara and G-dragon. But, their are still few people shipping Jaedara hard xDD
No it’s not a fanmade n the different between them is only two years n the song Healing for myself everyone knows that JJ wrote it for his girlfriend ,JJ said that by himself
Dara n GD I don’t think so BCUZ Dara said that she never date anyone related to YG
Well for Dara saying that she never would date anyone related to YG, you know, never say never, but that doesn’t mean that I think she’s dating GD. I don’t think she does, but bcz he’s not a “pretty boy”.
So is that true or not?!!
You seungri from Big Bang said that Dara love pretty boys>>>>>JJ is pretty
Sorry I meant Guys you know Seungri
hi hello everyone..just wanna share my happiness..dont hate on me kkkk..Dara followed Jaejoong accnt..i just died last night but ALLAH threw me back to earth to witness my beloved couple #JaeDara developmnts..kkkkk..but
peace everyone
Hahaha Did you read my comment? it’s up to your comment
so You’re JaeDy shipper hahahaha XD welcome you
Make Allah be with you
yaaaaaaaaaaaaay
I LOVE the news 
in fact I read some fanfic about them and I LOVED it but I didn’t really know if they knew each other in real life
hello there ^.^ Im a Blackjack also and I was so happy Dara followed Jae~
@makiforjyj
No GD is pretty boy,His smile is perfect but I’m not JaeDy or something I don’t ship any relation but I wanna to know about JYJ’s personal life just curious no more I’m not a crazy fan XD but I a huge fan of JYJ
@AnGeL LAECHUNSU
^^ Well, for me GD isn’t a typical pretty boy, someone like JaeJoong is or Taemin and Ulzzang so to speak. But I don’t mean that he is unattractive, bcz I actually think he’s very handsome, as you’re mentioning, his smile is stunning, I love him when he’s smiling (⌒‿⌒)
Btw I wasn’t assuming that you are a crazy fan kkk I thought you are just curious (⌒‿⌒)v
Yes you’re rite Taimen or heechul are pretty boys but actually the one who’s much prettier is Jaejoong,n I said that not BCUZ I’m JYJer I’m ELF too but it’s the truth n You found GD is Handsome I found him Handsome and pretty same time like Jaejoong but JJ is more Handsome and pretter than him
So in conclusion, JJ is the prettiest and most handsome (>‿<) kkk
@makiforjyj
“So in conclusion, JJ is the prettiest and most handsome (>‿<) kkk
I don't think I would refer to Jaejoong as being pretty. Somehow for a man the word doesn't seem right. But I very regularly refer to him as being beautiful because to me he is – inside and out.
@lilibaiyu
The only reason I use the word pretty is because of the term “pretty boy”, Ulzzang, in k-pop culture. I never saw him as pretty/girl-alike. To me he is handsome outside (most preferably without make-up and contact lenses, kkk) and the most beautiful inside (⌒‿⌒), which for me, makes him even shine brighter outside.
@makiforjyj
” To me he is handsome outside (most preferably without make-up and contact lenses, kkk) and the most beautiful inside (⌒‿⌒), which for me, makes him even shine brighter outside.”
Me too.
So…. just sayin’ … NO tweets from Jaejoong since the Hong Kong fanmeet. Is anyone else (besides me) starting to get a little concerned?
No, I’m not concerned. In my opinion preparation for these concerts is more important than tweets. They have to be extremely busy trying to make sure this goes off with as few glitches as possible.
@lilibaiyu & @butterfliesarefree
I agree on butterflies opinion, I also think that they are just busy preparing and maybe catching up with long time not seen friends, enjoying a bit Japan, since it’s the cheery blossom season right now ~ well damn, now I’m jealous kkk #justkidding (>‿<)
I feel like you do..like he should have called home by now moments keep popping up in my head. But I undestand, Daddie got to work.~* Be well Jae, Su, Chu…rock their faces off!!
@pinky lee
Like he hasn’t been working hard all this time? No, this isn’t like him. Unless he’s upset, that is. Several days have gone by with nothing. I’m concerned about him.
maybe he is just avoiding opening his twitter all together because he knows what’s there …at least that’s what I’m hopping he’s doing right now .
he needs to be relaxed and focused on the Tokyo dome shows .
Avoiding to open his twitter,why?what’s going on there?
Did someone attack him or something?Please tell me
people make a big fuss out of anything he would do , so you can expect the storm of messages he would get ( from all kind of people ) after that whole HK thing .Of course non of us really know what’s Jaejoong is thinking but I’m just hopping he would stay away form twitter for a while.
Oh, they used LINE (⌒‿⌒) I hope you heart is at ease now again lilibaiyu (⌒‿⌒)
I would say too hard. Yeah I was thinking that, but didn’t want to say it. Lets keep him in our prayers and be positive. We will hear from him soon~*
In and with our hearts,okay
Oh, no! U.S. news is reporting that North Korea wants to go to war with South Korea! They also want to go to go to war with the U.S.! I hope this doesn’t happen! Everyone please be safe!
Say this news too, but I actually don’t know what to believe… I asked immediately someone on Twitter and he answered rather casually than really worried. Did you watch the TL:DR of eatyourkimchi regarding the threats? They also say that this happens pretty much every year and that the international media is kind of making a fuss out of it?! Our boys too, posting on LINE, if I were them and really worried, I probably wouldn’t post funny stuff?! So really, I don’t know what to believe anymore. I guess I’ll see how Korean media reacts rather than international.
@Shirley
NK does this like clockwork every time a new leader comes into power in SK. They also are in need of vital supplies. They are very skilled at extortion. being doing it for years. Yes, it does give one pause for caution because unstable people are unpredictable. But even the generals in NK have to know that annihilation would be the outcome of any military action that leads to war.
@butterfliesarefree2
I just hope North Korean attacks never comes true!
***HIGH ALERT QUESTION**
Well, does anybody know if Jae still has to go to service for the military?? I mean North Korea is really acting a donkey and Im kinda concerned~* Yes, I worry to much!!
Did you wanna kill me or something?!!!!XD
HMM I don’t think so he’s still need more time so c’mon Leeteuk from SJ born in 83 and he goes to military before a couple of months so our boy Jaejoong needs more time He’s still so young
Thank you..I just had a moment. With all this talk of war and other foolishness, gave me shock
I’d never harm anyone…that’s not my way~*
No sweetheart I’m just kidding XD
Don’t worry about our boys they’re OK we’re support them for the rest of our life
@pinky lee
My opinion is that probably everybody is apprehensive about the recent turn of events because Kim Jong Un is a loose cannon and the sanctions have him looking at a very bleak future for his poor benighted people. Still, I can’t quite believe he would be so foolish as to start something that would end in disaster for him, his brand new regime and his country. I can certainly understand SK’s decision to stop sending aid to NK while they continue their posturing and threats. It would seem like a bad deal to me too. And now that sanctions are starting to kick in, NK is only becoming more threatening and hostile. Not a good situation, any way you look at it.
About Jaejoong: he’s always said he will enter the military and serve when the time comes to do so. From what I understand, not to do so would be considered dishonorable.
I don’t understand why he feels the need to be tryannical…surely there are more productive ways to spend your time~
Doesn’t he know that there will be serious backlash from his decisons??
As for Jae…I will enjoy the time I have been given.
@pinky lee
I know, it does indeed seem like the kid has a screw or two loose but that is far over-simplifying the situation, shame on me. Possible theories, he’s trying to impress the generals who control the military, he’s trying to “solidify his regime” by taking a menacing strongman stance, although that one is a head scratcher because he could “solidify his regime” right back into the stone age if he’s crazy enough to use neuclear weaponry against either SK or the US. So while it’s tempting to dismiss him as a looney who’s all talk, I think that would be unwise and apparently our state dept. does too. The statement they released says they are taking “NK’s escalating threats of war very seriously.” I have a friend who is a bureau chief for an English speaking online news site for all things Asian. (Kind of a newspaper without the paper. lol) I’ll ask him and see what he thinks.
@makiforjyj
Hahahahahaha XD you’re rite our boy JaeJoong is much Handsome N prettier than the other Idols in whole Korea Oh no maybe the world
@lilibaiyu ∞
yeah I think it would be wise to take anyone with access to nuclear weaponry very serious.. at this point. I fear that if he keeps looking for reason, then sure enough he just might do it. And that toad seems like the type to do it when we least expect it.
I look forward to finding out what your friend has to say, be pretty interesting~*
Let us be happy and continue to fight for the boys and all that is good~*
@Pinky Lee
He says it’s mostly bluster and solidifying. Here’s an article he referred me to which I think is a good and sensible depiction of what’s going on:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/30/world/asia/in-pyongyang-bluster-fakery-and-real-risks.html?ref=asia&_r=2&
thank you
@VE Sister
Interesting, good read. It follows along other pieces I’ve read that say pretty much the same thing. The one continual thread is Jr’s unknown personality traits. The main consistency is that he follows the same formula as father and grandfather. Shoring up the internal image and extortion. When there is no known tangible benefit to any of the actions, the urge to continue becomes more and more unlikely.
Wouldn’t this cylinder installation be an amzing gift for JJ’s apartment? http://vimeo.com/23614279 (>‿<)
I wasn’t sure if there would be a new ODP for the month of April, but I wanted to post something just before the TD concert series…
“Happiness is like a butterfly which, when pursued, is always beyond our grasp, but, if you will sit down quietly, may alight upon you.”
~Nathaniel Hawthorne
I have this thing about butterflies. But looking for something to inspire what I want to express on the eve of the Tokyo Dome concerts for JYJ, this quote spoke to me.
I am beyond happy for Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu. They are about to complete a circle, returning to where it all began for them as three. Yes, they did the concerts for the disaster fundraisers. No need to rehash what went down, except to say this. Sometimes we have to experience bad times to really appreciate when the good ones come to us. This return will be bittersweet, but sweet nonetheless.
Character is built on many things. One of those things is adversity. Adversity helps us deal with situations that are not easy. You either are going to have what it takes or you won’t. The members of JYJ have demonstrated time and again, they have what it takes. They stand tall, persevere, and carry on. Nothing more can be asked of them.
When I think of how proud they will be to appear before their Japanese fans again, I get goose bumps. Tokyo Dome is special. Truth, there will be fans from other places, but Japan is like a second home for JYJ. They built their foundation in Japan. The Japanese fans welcomed them and gave them a lot of love and support over the years. Now the members of JYJ are back without any cumbrances.
Whatever show or playlist they provide will be their own, JYJ. Fans all around the world will be waiting with baited breath to find out how it all turns out. Knowing how much the guys care about giving their all, I don’t doubt it will be a huge success.
The happiness I feel for Jae, Chunnie, and Su is like that in the quote above. I experienced that exact scenario as a child in the front yard at my grandmother’s. I’m going to sit and wait for the butterfly to light on my hand held out. When that happens it’s the most amazing feeling, so peaceful.
To Jaejoong, Yoochun, and Junsu, keep reaching for those dreams. Chase all the butterflies you want. Just remember, when you hold out your hand, they eventually come to you, colorful, carefree, and beautiful. The future is yours.
Your fans all around the world will be right there beside you. We will continue to be the Miracle Makers for you. Geez, I love that line from SKKS! I’m going to open a bottle of the bubbly and salute you guys.
“IN THE END, IT’S JYJ FOREVER!”
PEACE to everyone in the JYJ Republic
I so much love what you’ve wrote here, you are a sweetheart butterfly, it made me tear up, it made me be once more so so proud to be a part of this beautiful family, to have learned about JYJ. I’m really grateful and thankful. “We will continue to be the Miracle Makers for you”… I love that too… your description made me imagin a picture with JaeJoong, YooChun and JunSu standing at the front with hundreds of thousands of us from all over the world backing them up, protecting them.
“IN THE END, IT’S JYJ FOREVER!” & our family ♥